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1Nov 9, 2010 9:35 PMHow will this be evaluated?
2Nov 9, 2010 9:37 PMIncredibly applicable.
3Nov 9, 2010 9:38 PMMore focus on scientific writing!
4Nov 9, 2010 9:48 PMno comment
5Nov 9, 2010 9:50 PMI'd like to know where this is done and how.
6Nov 9, 2010 9:54 PMThe word effectively here is a bit vague. If part of this assessment will include the ability to give cohesive argument and support arguments with evidence and/or logic, then it is a good outcome.
7Nov 9, 2010 9:55 PMThis is very beneficial and important. Also, the professors and staff should be competent in this area. There are professors that do not like to answer any questions that students ask. What kind of learning environment is that?
8Nov 9, 2010 9:56 PMIn English. Even if it is a second language for them. This school is in an English speaking nation and if students wish to study here, they must master the language.
9Nov 9, 2010 9:59 PMappropriate
10Nov 9, 2010 10:00 PMI think this is the biggest stressor on campus, and being taught very effectively. At MNSU you have to take the Gen Ed liberals which is all about communication and learning from each department.
11Nov 9, 2010 10:04 PMIn the different classes that I have had in one way or another we had to do some project that required this. I feel that I am comfortable to do this in the workplace.
12Nov 9, 2010 10:04 PMhow about non-verbal communication? it is the basis for most misunderstanding
13Nov 9, 2010 10:11 PMI don't think digital/visual media is essential. It's tragic that our society has become so heavily dependent technology and the responsible thing to do as a memeber of society is to refrain from placing so much emphasis on these tools. It is beneficial to know how to use these tools but also to communicate without them.
14Nov 9, 2010 10:11 PMI have learned about various communication tools throughout MSU, it would be helpful to learn more about digital media and how it works.
15Nov 9, 2010 10:17 PMI do agree to some point, but the facultiy and staff DO NOT communicate back towards us. Instead they make our lives living nightmares with a bunch of chasing after them for answers.
16Nov 9, 2010 10:19 PMMinnesota State Mankato stresses communication skills and makes it a focus to develop the communication skills of the entire student population.
17Nov 9, 2010 10:19 PMIt is most beneficial for the individual if she understands proper and correct use of language beyond the necessity to communicate effectively.
18Nov 9, 2010 10:21 PMWe need to do more with digital and visual media.
19Nov 9, 2010 10:36 PMMost students at MSU, M don't know how to write papers, give presentations, or give speeches.
20Nov 9, 2010 10:37 PMI think the word "verbally" should be changed to "orally." The term verbal communication encompasses both oral and written communication. So, if what is intended is a specific reference to oral (spoken) communication, then the outcome should specify that.
21Nov 9, 2010 10:43 PMAll students? Some? If some, which students? All three levels must be achieved? Verbal, written, and digital/visual?
22Nov 9, 2010 10:44 PMWhat will we do with the many students whose writing skills are minimal?
23Nov 9, 2010 10:45 PMVery important to communicate through professional technical writing
24Nov 9, 2010 10:55 PMDemonstration of learning outcomes = communication. This is also an essential.
25Nov 9, 2010 11:34 PMCommunication is a necessity in learning.
26Nov 9, 2010 11:41 PMToo awkward, how about this version? Students will demonstrate effective verbal, visual, and written communication using a variety of media.
27Nov 9, 2010 11:41 PMBut why include visual media or digital media. They should be able to write clear concise English (including verbs) and speak well. If they can't any faculty member should be able to request that they demonstrate those skills before they graduate. Passing a course will not accomplish this goal.
28Nov 9, 2010 11:58 PMcommunication is good i feel like all assingments are very clear
29Nov 10, 2010 12:32 AMTaken care of by requiring both speech and writing
30Nov 10, 2010 12:53 AMI see this as one of the most critical, and one in which students are currently sorely lacking.
31Nov 10, 2010 1:23 AMThe inclusion of digital and visual literacy is welcome. The cross-cultural aspect is missing.
32Nov 10, 2010 1:30 AMWhile performing various duties in service learning students are exposed to the need to achieve a common goal. In order to do this there is going to be communication with supervisors, peers, those being helped, and it will be done utilizing many forms of communication so as to ensure the message is received clearly.
33Nov 10, 2010 1:44 AMDo we have digital and/or visual media courses?
34Nov 10, 2010 2:21 AMWhat about spoken communication? What about the arts? Painting, sculpture, theatre, and music all are powerful means of conveying emotional meaning. The humanities seem to have been omitted.
35Nov 10, 2010 2:33 AMThere has been a focus on this throughout, from papers, to public speaking, to presentations. Not bad, but could be better.
36Nov 10, 2010 2:52 AMI very much like the last phrase, and, as I recall, I suggested these be included.
37Nov 10, 2010 2:58 AMEdit, edit, edit is part of the process
38Nov 10, 2010 3:27 AMTechnical writing/communicating clearly may be more important than is recognized.
39Nov 10, 2010 3:31 AMStudents on our campus really struggle with writing and critical thinking. They have assess to so much technology/information, but they don't how to use it.
40Nov 10, 2010 3:45 AMVerbal and writing skills should be stressed. Most are probably more comfortable with the last ones.
41Nov 10, 2010 4:19 AMWho decides and at what level? The student writing skills, in my experience, are generally below average at MSU. Will the assessment be done in the department or by a university committee? How will the standards be disseminated so faculty know how students will be assessed. How is the assessment time commitment factored into faculty workloads?
42Nov 10, 2010 6:42 AMStudents need the attention more than just a computer help, they will tend to slack and more often not focus due to no actual one-on-ones.
43Nov 10, 2010 12:33 PMDitto my comments on 1 & 2. Interpersonal communication? Presentational communication? Where is the idea of interpretation of a communicated message? Can students communicate across cultures?
44Nov 10, 2010 2:05 PMI see too many students playing little kid games on the computer.
45Nov 10, 2010 2:24 PMThis is an area that during under-grad, I think their could have been a much better job in making sure students come out out with an ability to use all microsoft software applications-but this is something that I suspect was not defined prior to graduation and may well be happening now.
46Nov 10, 2010 3:13 PMShould the multimedia format also be referenced. In my mind "digital and/or visual media is not the same as multimedia.
47Nov 10, 2010 3:23 PMThis is certainly a worthy goal - and one we would definitely want to promote as a learning outcome at MSU. My concern is that despite an increased emphasis on writing skills (intensive writing courses), my experience would indicate that students are becoming LESS effective, not more, in demonstrating good writing skills. Some of the email messages I receive are absolutely not acceptable. How can we promote this goal in all aspects of our learning environment? I'm beginning to distrust our ENG 101 courses, when I see grades of "A," and then the poor evidence of learning.
48Nov 10, 2010 4:05 PMparticularly face to face communication
49Nov 10, 2010 4:46 PMSame as previous question.
50Nov 10, 2010 4:48 PMshould be less media
51Nov 10, 2010 5:03 PMEspecially in this age of computers, cell phones, palm pilots etc. I have noticed a tendency of students to think that e-mail/text message communication is as effective as face to face. Especially with group assignments, I have noticed there has been less opportunity for students to participate in meaningful problem solving if there main communication is through these means.
52Nov 10, 2010 5:26 PMThis is a good goal, but they also need to come to us with these skills from their K12 education and they are not. Generally speaking today's students are not well-spoken nor can they write well. They are especially poor when it comes to technical writing skills when we need then to write abstracts and research documents. This is also very profession specific. My students ability to write a narrative or a composition is great but they will not use that writing style in a medical record, in communication with physicians, or in research.
53Nov 10, 2010 6:15 PMsometimes it is difficult for writing effectively because every teacher wants us to write a paper a different way and our grades are affected by it.
54Nov 10, 2010 6:45 PMYES! Non-verbal communication is also important. Students need to be aware of the messages they send with their body language and should be aware of that in others also.
55Nov 10, 2010 6:53 PMIs there any thought of applying this to educators, as well?
56Nov 10, 2010 6:56 PMEfficient communication in all current forums of media is essential for knowledge and the ability to have your own voice heard.
57Nov 10, 2010 7:26 PMApparently the writers of this survey need to work on this "learning outcome."
58Nov 10, 2010 9:25 PMWhy not, because, communication skills is important beyond the school.
59Nov 10, 2010 9:40 PMIn all of my classes I am participating in activities that include communication. Its such a part of our every day lives that learning it is essential to our survival in the world.
60Nov 10, 2010 9:58 PMAs a mass communications and technical communications student I believe this to be true. I do not know if this is true for all areas of study.
61Nov 10, 2010 10:23 PMcould include listening skills
62Nov 10, 2010 10:50 PMI do believe that students can learn how to use technology by interacting with other students in the community.
63Nov 11, 2010 3:10 PMCommunication is key to all aspects of life, especially at a professional level
64Nov 11, 2010 7:21 PMWhen I talk with employers, they consistently mention as one of their top priorities the importance of our students being effective communicators.
65Nov 11, 2010 9:39 PMWell, given test scores and writing samples - no. Looking at transcripts - yes.
66Nov 12, 2010 5:56 AMI am ok with this untill you start offering Facebook classes.
67Nov 12, 2010 5:09 PMnone
68Nov 15, 2010 12:49 AMPlenty of students I know do not know how to use Power Point, and usually the only time they are required to make a power point is for a group project. If they don't know how, they defer the power point making to someone who does know. MSU is notorious for horrible writing skills. I'm amazed when a professor tells me that a paper I did last minute, without much thought, is one of the best papers they've read in a few years.
69Nov 15, 2010 4:12 PMAgain, what happens if a student cannot "demonstrate" such abilities?
70Nov 16, 2010 4:13 AMStudents need more work on communication skills--both oral and written that is in a professional format.