<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd"><html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><head><title>Comment Summary</title><link media="all" href="css/Export.css" type="text/css" rel="stylesheet" charset="utf-8" /><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" /><meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="en" /></head><body style="margin-left:15px;margin-right:15px;margin-top:15px;"><a href="SurveySummary.html" class="NormBtn">&laquo; Back to Summary</a><div style="margin-top:15px;"><table class="rsltsmry" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0" border="0"><thead><tr><th class="hdr" colspan="8">Comments on Critical Thinking student learning outcome:</th></tr><tr><th class="hdr dflt">#</th><th class="hdr dflt">Response&nbsp;Date</th><th class="hdr dflt" style="width:80%;">Response Text</th></tr></thead><tbody id="xtrows"><tr><td>1</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 9, 2010 9:36 PM</td><td>This is by far the most important outcome of learning.</td></tr><tr><td>2</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 9, 2010 9:37 PM</td><td>Could someone teach freshmen what it means to analyze? I think they think analyze means describe.</td></tr><tr><td>3</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 9, 2010 9:42 PM</td><td>Is it possible to test all solutions?</td></tr><tr><td>4</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 9, 2010 9:49 PM</td><td>This should be a goal of each student.</td></tr><tr><td>5</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 9, 2010 9:51 PM</td><td>True. YOu have to navigate through the system and figure out what to especially if you're working with a department that leaves you on your own.</td></tr><tr><td>6</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 9, 2010 9:51 PM</td><td>Not in the IT 360, IT 320, IT 460, and IT 462 classes taught by Dr. Mahbubur Syed. Dr. Syed does not challenge his students and does not deserve his salary</td></tr><tr><td>7</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 9, 2010 9:52 PM</td><td>There's more to critical thinking than analysis and problem solving. This definition is too narrow.</td></tr><tr><td>8</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 9, 2010 9:57 PM</td><td>I am not sure &quot;testing&quot; solutions is always possible or applicable to situations involving critical thinking. I might suggest &quot;and/or&quot; instead of &quot;and&quot; alone. This outcome is somewhat vague. I would like to know specifically what might be assessed.</td></tr><tr><td>9</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 9, 2010 9:58 PM</td><td>This is a nice outcome, but doesn't happen. The entire campus has an exceedingly obvious liberal bias. There is no &quot;critical thinking.&quot;</td></tr><tr><td>10</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 9, 2010 9:59 PM</td><td>Not everyone analyzes everything to death. Some look at the facts and make a decision. Simple, cut and dried. And it works for them because they have learned in their short lives that this is the best way to go about it for them to have success.</td></tr><tr><td>11</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 9, 2010 9:59 PM</td><td>In certain area or classes, the instructors do not encourage critical thinking. Instead, they proclaim that &quot;it is so because it is so, there's no reason&quot;. By teaching this way, there's no room allowed for understanding or critical thinking.</td></tr><tr><td>12</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 9, 2010 10:01 PM</td><td>Handled effectively.</td></tr><tr><td>13</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 9, 2010 10:01 PM</td><td>unclear. How is this measured? Are there specific criteria?</td></tr><tr><td>14</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 9, 2010 10:14 PM</td><td>This is an area that could be improved. I know we have don't projects on critical thinking but none that I could recall immediately. Critical thinking is an area that I think MSU needs improvement in, because all careers are specifically asking about.</td></tr><tr><td>15</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 9, 2010 10:21 PM</td><td>Regardless of a student's major at Minnesota State, whether it is Business, Engineering, or Sports Management, that student will be required to take a course at some point that deals with their analytical skills and problem solving ability.</td></tr><tr><td>16</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 9, 2010 10:22 PM</td><td>This will be one of the most difficult to assess--there are so many definitions and understandings of what critical thinking means.</td></tr><tr><td>17</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 9, 2010 10:25 PM</td><td>This should also be a measure of &quot;faculty learning&quot;</td></tr><tr><td>18</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 9, 2010 10:26 PM</td><td>For CSET and math this is applicable. For other majors it seems very hit or miss.</td></tr><tr><td>19</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 9, 2010 10:36 PM</td><td>Most students are absolutely moronic.</td></tr><tr><td>20</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 9, 2010 10:44 PM</td><td>None</td></tr><tr><td>21</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 9, 2010 10:45 PM</td><td>Not all situations require solutions.</td></tr><tr><td>22</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 9, 2010 10:51 PM</td><td>Assessment measurement validity is a concern.</td></tr><tr><td>23</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 9, 2010 10:52 PM</td><td>Students should leave with a sense of collecting data as a basis of making decisions.</td></tr><tr><td>24</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 9, 2010 10:56 PM</td><td>Education is shifting its emphasis from &quot;what to know&quot; and &quot;what to learn&quot; to &quot;how to know&quot; and &quot;how to learn&quot;. Critical thinking is necessary.</td></tr><tr><td>25</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 9, 2010 11:34 PM</td><td>Without critical thinking, we would never be able to progress our educations</td></tr><tr><td>26</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 9, 2010 11:41 PM</td><td>Students will analyze situations, identify problems, and test solutions.</td></tr><tr><td>27</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 9, 2010 11:41 PM</td><td>They may not be able to &quot;test&quot; all situations or problems.</td></tr><tr><td>28</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 9, 2010 11:44 PM</td><td>But, it's so general it would apply to most higher education institutions.</td></tr><tr><td>29</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 9, 2010 11:50 PM</td><td>Yes, it is so important that our students learn to think for themselves.</td></tr><tr><td>30</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 9, 2010 11:59 PM</td><td>tw of my classes have delt with this and i feel like i know what it is and how to go about doing it before i had no clue</td></tr><tr><td>31</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 10, 2010 1:23 AM</td><td>I think this definition of &quot;critical thinking&quot; is unnecessarily restrictive as it limits itself to situations/problems and solutions. I would prefer a broader definition that is applicable to the Arts, Humanities, and Sciences as well, as for example the one brought forth by the Michael Skriven and Richard Paul: &quot;Critical thinking is the intellectually disciplined process of actively and skillfully conceptualizing, applying, analyzing, synthesizing, and/or evaluating information gathered from, or generated by, observation, experience, reflection, reasoning, or communication, as a guide to belief and action.&quot;</td></tr><tr><td>32</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 10, 2010 1:33 AM</td><td>There is no cookie cutter response to service learning. No two situations are the same because no two people are the same. The path taken to get an outcome one day might not be an option the next time. We have to visualize more than one single solution in order to be prepared for success.</td></tr><tr><td>33</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 10, 2010 1:45 AM</td><td>Is this a widely accepted definition of critical thinking?</td></tr><tr><td>34</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 10, 2010 2:34 AM</td><td>There has been a focus on critical thinking throughout the IT major.</td></tr><tr><td>35</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 10, 2010 2:54 AM</td><td>In 2007-08, IPESL grant recipients had such a terrible time defining &quot;critical thinking.&quot; I find it to be such an overused term. If we can do away with this SLO, I don't think it would be missed.</td></tr><tr><td>36</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 10, 2010 2:59 AM</td><td>A massive part of the program I'm enrolled in</td></tr><tr><td>37</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 10, 2010 3:28 AM</td><td>More of this is needed in the &quot;Fuzzy&quot; programs such as social work.</td></tr><tr><td>38</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 10, 2010 3:31 AM</td><td>This could be stronger. They really struggle with synthesis of content.</td></tr><tr><td>39</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 10, 2010 3:45 AM</td><td>Yes, we really need to develop those critical thinking skills.</td></tr><tr><td>40</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 10, 2010 6:43 AM</td><td>It depends, on what the situations and problems are, some are more severe than others.</td></tr><tr><td>41</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 10, 2010 12:33 PM</td><td>Students encouraged to use critical thinking skills.</td></tr><tr><td>42</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 10, 2010 12:38 PM</td><td>What about synthesis, evaluation, valuing, internalizing, adaptation, origination? Analysis is midlevel learning.</td></tr><tr><td>43</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 10, 2010 2:03 PM</td><td>This sounds very scientific. What about the more arts-related fields?</td></tr><tr><td>44</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 10, 2010 2:06 PM</td><td>I see too many students teaming up to complete an assignment. I question their intelligence to complete the assignment on their own.</td></tr><tr><td>45</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 10, 2010 2:25 PM</td><td>This is 95% of what college provided me. Creating an analytical problem solving mind.</td></tr><tr><td>46</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 10, 2010 3:16 PM</td><td>What about synthesization?</td></tr><tr><td>47</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 10, 2010 4:06 PM</td><td>essential</td></tr><tr><td>48</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 10, 2010 4:47 PM</td><td>Critical Thinking not only comes in forms of testing but also in forms of writing and other skills.</td></tr><tr><td>49</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 10, 2010 5:04 PM</td><td>Important skill. Measurement could be tricky.</td></tr><tr><td>50</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 10, 2010 5:23 PM</td><td>its opening my mind to many things i didn't open it to before</td></tr><tr><td>51</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 10, 2010 5:28 PM</td><td>Yes, critical thinking skills. How we assess it is very important and there is much literature related to critical thinking skills. Again it is very discipline specific.</td></tr><tr><td>52</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 10, 2010 6:59 PM</td><td>Without proper critical thinking skills, many poor decisions can be made. The goal of education is the betterment of those involved and if we send out graduates without the ability to properly analyze situations we are setting them up for failure.</td></tr><tr><td>53</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 10, 2010 7:26 PM</td><td>I might recommend adding &quot;evaluate&quot; before solutions, i.e. &quot;identify, test and evaluate solutions.&quot;</td></tr><tr><td>54</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 10, 2010 7:27 PM</td><td>These are pretty vague outlines. Good job! Your a school!</td></tr><tr><td>55</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 10, 2010 9:42 PM</td><td>As much as I sometimes do not like analyzing things it is an important part of education and life. Professors love critical thinking and I think I am finally developing an appreciation for it too.</td></tr><tr><td>56</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 10, 2010 10:50 PM</td><td>I do believe that students can demonstrate this by working together with other students.</td></tr><tr><td>57</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 11, 2010 3:11 PM</td><td>Education is about teaching students how to think</td></tr><tr><td>58</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 11, 2010 7:41 PM</td><td>I believe that critical thinking is a key skill that all of our students should develop. I would argue, however, that critical thinking needs to be addressed both at the broad, general level, and at the specific program level so that students are effective critcal thinkers in the domain of their fields. For example, Economics majors need both general critical thinking skills and the ability to be critical thinkers about economics. Thus, for example, a GenEd course that focuses on critical thinking in the abstract isn't enough -- some of the Econ courses in the major also need to teach critical thinking within the subject matter domain of economics.</td></tr><tr><td>59</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 12, 2010 5:59 AM</td><td>This is vague/confusing.</td></tr><tr><td>60</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 12, 2010 5:10 PM</td><td>I already know how to think critically.</td></tr><tr><td>61</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 17, 2010 4:58 PM</td><td>I hope this happens, though at times, it feels like professors don't want us to think critically but to just accept whatever they say as absolute truth. If you voice a dissenting opinion, you can find yourself under fire.</td></tr><tr><td>62</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Nov 22, 2010 4:22 PM</td><td>This is applicable, but I don't necessarily think this encompasses the concept of critical thinking.</td></tr><tr><td>63</td><td style="white-space:nowrap;">Dec 2, 2010 7:54 PM</td><td>I LEARNED ALOT</td></tr></tbody></table></div></body></html>