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Parking Advisory Committee
Meeting Minutes: Thursday, April 20, 2000

Chairperson David Cowan convened a special meeting of the Parking Advisory committee at 11:07 AM on Thursday, April 20, 2000 in the Student Senate's Conference Room (Student Union Room #280.

Regular PAC Members Present: 5 of 6 members
1. Rose Marie Ley AFSCME Council 6, Local 638 Representative
2. David Cowan Administration Representative
3. Catherine W. Hughes MSUAASF Bargaining Unit Representative
4. Jesse Palmer/C. Rhys Gaffer Off- Campus Student Association Representative
(Christine Adams shares the seat; one is an alternate)
5. Ian Radtke On- Campus Student Assn. Representative

Regular PAC Members Absent: 1 of 6 members
1. Steve Gilbert IFO Faculty Association Representative

Ex-officio, Nonvoting: Members Present: 3 of 7 members
1. Sue Edstrom Parking and Traffic Services Coordinator
2. David Neve Business Affairs Representative
3. Scott Hagebak Conference Scheduling Representative

Members Absent: 4 of 7 members
1. Christopher Goettl Residence Hall Association Representative
2. Larry Kohanek Facilities Mgmt. Planning & Construction Manager
3. Diane Solinger Residential Life Office Representative
4. Kate Voight Parking Citation Appeals Board Coordinator

Others in Attendance
1. Scott Ruplings Student
2. Tim Sundal Student

Agenda Approved
Without objection the agenda was approved.

Approval of Past Meeting Minutes Postponed: March 31 & April 6
The meeting minutes of March 31 and April 6 were not available for review.

Approval of Meeting Minutes of April 13th
The meeting minutes of April 13, 2000, were approved with the correction that Scott Hagebak was absent.

Parking Meter Rate Change
Rose Marie Ley moved the PAC recommend that a new rate for meter parking be adopted which would be 25¢ for 15 minutes with a maximum of 30 minutes. The effective date of the rate change is July 1, 2000. Motion passed.

Members noted that the existing rate of 25¢ for every 20 minutes (40 minute cap) was not discouraging students who were using the meters to catch a 50 minute class. The Advisory Committee has always viewed parking meters as one of the few alternatives for those just wanting to run in and out of a building to drop something off or pick up items. With the existing 40 minute maximum too many citations have been issued to students trying to "beat the clock" hoping that a Parking and Traffic Services Officer would not walk by their parked vehicle while they were in class. As a side note, the new 25¢ for 15 minutes recommended rate now will more closely parallel the $1 per hour charged by the Paylot (Lot 4) and what is charged for those using the attendant free Paybox (Lot 21).

Of the 78 meter inventory owned by MSU, at present only 45 meters are in specific locations throughout campus thanks in part to on-going construction projects that have eliminated metered stalls. It is anticipated that only $23,000 will be raised this fiscal year as opposed to a high of $33,622 generated last year before construction projects wiped out metered stalls.

FY'01 Rates for Department Purchased Stalls: "Specialty " Stalls
Now that the basic rates for all permits have been endorsed by the PAC and approved by the Administration, the Advisory Committee turned its attention to what to charge departments who wanted to buy stalls dedicated for their use. Existing rates for so-called specialty stalls first appeared for the 1998-99 budget year and haven't been changed since then.

Rates were established for "specialty stalls" because they take up spaces that would otherwise be used for permit parking stalls. Specialty stalls used to be provided "free of charge" to a number of departments. When the existing rates went into effect during FY'99, many departments withdrew from the program arguing that they really didn't need one or more stalls to take care of their clients.

Rose Marie Ley moved and PAC approved a recommendation that new rates for specialty stalls be put in place for FY'01. (See table below.) The existing $180 department guest/visitor stall rate is linked to the Reserved Gold parking charge but the PAC felt that relationship should change to discourage departments buying stalls because an employee may not have gotten a gold permit close-in to where he/she wanted to park.

 Existing Rate Proposed Rate
Loading Dock Areas  $250 $300
Commercial Users (For Profit) 250 300
Department Guest/Visitor Stalls 180 250
State Vehicle Stalls (Lot 17 & Elsewhere) 150 175



FY'01 Receipts 
 Loading Dock Areas  
Student Union
 1 x $300 = $ 300
 1 x 300 = 300
Trafton South 
 1 x 300 = 300
Trafton North 
 1 x 300 = 300
 Wiecking Center
 1 x 300 = 300
 Childrens' House
(twelve 15 minute loading/unloading)
 Residential Life Office
 1 x 300 = 300
 Carkoski Commons
 1 .x 300 = 300
 Commerical Users (For Profit)  
 IBM (lot 17)
 1 x 300 = 300
 Barnes & Noble Bookstore (South Road West)
 2 x 300 = 600
 Chartwells (South Road West)
 2 x 300 = 600
 M & M Vending (Pop Machines; South Road West)
 1 x 300 = 300
 MSU Departments  
 FYE (Gage Lot 3)
 2 x 250 = 500
 Residential Life Office
 Lot 13 Crawford
 2 x 250 = 500
 Lot 15 McElroy (Res.Life Duty Staff
 1 x 250 = 250
 Health Services (Lot 13)
 4 x 250 = 1,000
 Music (Lot 16 Performing Arts Lot)
 4 x 250 = 1,000
 Theatre & Dance (Lot 16 Performing Arts Lot)
 1 x 250 = 250
 Interior Design & Construction Management (Lot 17)
 1 x 250 = 250
 ROTC (Lot 17)
 2 x 250 = 550
 Printing & Photocopying Services
 1 x 250 = 250
 Building Services (Lot 17)
 2 x 250 = 500
 Plumbing & Fitting Services (Lot 17)
 1 x 250 = 250
TRIO Programs (Lot 17)
 2 x 250 = 500
MSU for Seniors (Lot 19)
  1 x 250 = 250
 University Advancement (Lot 19)
 1 x 250 = 250
 Extended Campus (Lot 19)
 1 x 250 = 250
 Student Attorney (Lot 11a)
 1 x 250 = 250
 Admissions (Lot 11a)
 2 x 250 = 500
 Computer Services (Lot 6)
 1 x 250 = 250
 President's Office (Lot 6)
 2 x 250 = 500
 Science, Engineering & Technology (Lot 10)
 1 x 250 = 250
 State Vehicle Dedicated Stalls -  
Delivery Services (Lot 6) 
 1 x 175 = 175
 Athletics Training (Lot 7)
 1 x 175 = 175
 Facility Services (Lot 17)
 62 x 175 =10,850
 Vehicle Key Pickup/Drop off
 2 x 175 = 350
 "University Operations" Stalls
 45 x 175 = 7,875
 Residential Life Office
Lot 2 Gage for T-879
 1 x 175 = 175
 Lot 15 (Vehicle #9010)
 1 x 175 = 175

FY'01 Estimated Speciality Stall Receipt 

Total $31,925

Advisory Committee members recognized that there have been times when departmental stalls have been used by regular members of the department. When this specialty stall concept was adopted the PAC had hoped that such stalls would be used by "guests and visitors" of the department. PAC members believe that an "agreement" should be signed by each participating department which would help achieve the Advisory Committee's original objective. The PAC Chairperson was asked to draft a proposed agreement.

Proposed Text of Specialty Stall Agreement - Unapproved Draft Only

Specialty Stall Application

The University's "Specialty Parking Stall" program was created as a customer service option to assist departments in providing their guests and visitors with close-in parking near where the department is located. Exceptions are approved only with the written approval of the Parking Advisory Committee Chairperson based on special needs or set of circumstances.

Unique dashboard permit are produced, laminated, and pre-numbered by The Hub. These dashboard permits are issued by the department buying the specialty stall - it is expected that a log will be maintained by the department should University Security or The Hub ever need to find out who is using a particular dashboard permit.

Use by MSU employees and/or students is not condoned and such an incident places the department at risk of having its stall returned to the campus' general parking stall inventory. In such circumstances the department shall forfeit any refund claim of the money they paid for the specialty stall. The individual illegally using the permit faces up to a $75 fine as well.

Department:______________________________________Cost Center:_________________________Date:____________
Specialty Stall Location________________________ PAC Chair Signature:__________________________Date________

Need for Loading/Unloading Stalls Near Residence Hall Complexes
In response to a question from Cathy Hughes, it was reported that the two specialty stalls purchased by Cultural Diversity located in front of Crawford (Lot 13), had been changed the previous week to yellow guest stalls. The Multi-Cultural Office is now housed in the Student Union near the visitors' paylot. Cowan indicated that he had changed the stalls to yellow guest permit stalls at the request of Residential Life's Richard Wheeler. Hughes was informed that if Residential Life wanted to buy the two stalls for some other purpose that could be easily arranged.

Cathy had wondered if the stalls could be converted to a loading/unloading zone to enhance the ability of residents to drop off or pick up items.

Hughes reminded PAC members that loading/unloading spaces were needed now more than ever what with the hundreds of residence hall students parked out in Lot 20a who have to walk or take the bus back to their residence hall complex. Sue Edstrom noted that loading/unloading zones are frequently abused and Parking & Traffic Services Officers have to vehicle chalk tires to determine if the parked vehicle has not exceeded the posted time limit.

Cowan said that he would work with Residential Life Office to see how many more loading/unloading stalls are needed and can be put in place before next fall.

Without objection the meeting was adjourned at 12:03 PM.

Respectfully submitted,

David Cowan