Learning to Stutter

From: Michelle Graber
Date: 04 Oct 2004
Time: 00:35:42 -0500
Remote Name: 24.177.99.1

Comments

There is one particular portion of this paper that I'd like to comment 
on. It begins during the hitchhiking story, when Van Riper is trying 
to say his name and where he needs to go to. The farmer begins to 
laugh, which angers Van Riper until he learns that the farmer was 
also a PWS. Is this type of situation common among PWS? I am 
referring to a type of situation where the PWS is angered by a 
reaction from a listener and then comes to find out that the listener 
is also a PWS and can relate to the speaker's feelings

Re: Learning to Stutter

From: 
Date: 08 Oct 2004
Time: 11:03:26 -0500
Remote Name: 128.138.174.126

Comments

I always enjoyed Dr. Van's hitch hiker story. Although I think those 
of us who stutterer can develop comradery and understanding with 
another person we meet who stutters, I do think it is more unusual 
that another stutterer would laugh as an introduction to the fact he 
was/is a stutterer. That experience turned out to be very positive for 
Dr. Van in the long run, but the laughter may have been tolerable to 
him because it came from a very elderly man as oppossed to 
someone his age. In addition, the man's laughter was followed by 
wisdom and understanding.

Van Riper Article

From: Gail Leger, Graduate Student Southern University
Date: 07 Oct 2004
Time: 08:55:48 -0500
Remote Name: 209.215.150.254

Comments

I have been a speech pathologist for 22 years, I have always found 
Van Riper to have great insight into stuttering. His story about being 
picked up by while hitchhiking gave me a greater insight into the 
man I have heard about for so many years. I really enjoyed it and 
respect him.

Van Riper Article

From: Shelby--Graduate Student --University of Memphis
Date: 11 Oct 2004
Time: 20:31:45 -0500
Remote Name: 141.225.97.216

Comments

In so many areas of my life and things I have experienced older 
people always have a wise way of looking at situations. Older 
individuals undersatnd that there are so many things in life that 
should not hold us back--or bog us down. This story is added proof to 
this fact. I am currently enrolled in a fluency disorders class, and this 
story digs deep into the truth of stuttering therapy. Stuttering 
therapy's sole purpose is not to make the individual stop stuttering, 
but rather stutter fluently. By stuttering fluently and not being 
afraid of the disorder individuals can truly begin to see success from 
the therapy. 

I never knew!

From: Renee Matherne, Southern Univeristy
Date: 17 Oct 2004
Time: 20:25:37 -0500
Remote Name: 70.177.52.205

Comments

The name Van Riper is well known in the field of SLP. I have many 
articles and text written by this amazing man. However, I never read 
this amazing story about his life. This story touches my heart and 
adds to the respect that I already possessed for this man. It is nice to 
know a personal side of his life. Renee' Matherne

Van Riper Essay

From: Ali Walker
Date: 18 Oct 2004
Time: 12:50:53 -0500
Remote Name: 140.160.23.145

Comments

What an eloquent, insightful essay!

A Message from Charles Van Riper

From: Jessica Liggett
Date: 19 Oct 2004
Time: 16:35:32 -0500
Remote Name: 24.165.210.159

Comments

I really admire the idea behind this article by Charles Van Riper. I 
am currently enorolled in a fluency disorers class where we are 
constantly asked to stutter. I believe the best way to relate to a 
person who stutters is to show them that you care enough to attempt 
to stutter also. I may never know what is really feels like to lose 
control as a result of stuttering, but I can put myself in similar 
situations so that I can relate to the person who stutters. Charles Van 
Riper provided very significant insight into stuttering, and provided 
valuable information for students beginning their studies about 
stuttering. 

Re: A Message From Charles Van Riper

From: Wilma J. Pastrana Graduate Student
Date: 19 Oct 2004
Time: 22:51:53 -0500
Remote Name: 152.163.100.134

Comments

We may not always have a choice as to whether or not we will 
stutter, but we always have a choice as to how we are going to 
stutter, (Charles Van Riper).This significant point was made once 
again in his story when he stated, learn how to stutter!

Dr. Van Riper

From: Josh Holloman, University of Memphis
Date: 20 Oct 2004
Time: 21:25:45 -0500
Remote Name: 172.151.115.210

Comments

I have been a stutterer all my life, but I have just recently begun to 
understand what it is to be a stutterer. Mush like Dr. Van Riper, my 
early years were spent avoiding situations and keeping myself from 
the frontlines of conversational speaking. As I grew up, I accepted 
that I stuttered but still avoided certain speaking situations. I am 
currently in therapy at my Grad School (I am also a student)and I 
have learned that I can control my stuttering. Much like Van Riper's 
epiphany, I was filled with excitement when I started modifying my 
stuttering to make it more controllable. Most importantly, it has 
given me a new willingness to put myself into situations that I would 
have never dared to go before. The fear of stuttering has been 
replaced with a newfound courage to stutter.

Van Riper Article comment

From: Lisa Pogue, student
Date: 21 Oct 2004
Time: 15:45:41 -0500
Remote Name: 140.160.65.37

Comments

I am currently enrolled in a Fluency Disorders class and really 
enjoyed this message from Van Riper. Not having much previous 
experience with or knowledge of stuttering, I feel that this piece 
shows the personal side of stuttering. The story of how one 
individual struggled with it and became motivated to overcome it is 
very motivating- hearing a story like this makes me excited to work 
with people who stutter!

Van Riper Article

From: Ayana Detweiler, University of Memphis
Date: 21 Oct 2004
Time: 22:54:53 -0500
Remote Name: 141.225.225.45

Comments

I do not stutter and I have a hard time understanding the feeling of 
embarassment that PWS have. I have heard a moment of stuttering 
compared to that moment where you lose control of your car on an 
icy road. I have been in that situation myself and I was scared, so I 
understand that fear associated with a moment of stuttering, but 
where does the embarassment come from? Dr. Van Riper talks about 
his stuttering being "grotesque" and that he needed to make it "more 
tolerable to others". I am a first year graduate student and I have 
very limited exposure to stuttering. When I see a person trapped in a 
moment of stuttering I do not feel that it is in any way intolerable, 
and I don't see it as grotesque. I feel a sense of anxiety on behalf of 
the speaker who is trying to get the words out and just can't. Where 
does the sense of embarassment come from?

it seems so logical

From: Amy Hess - graduate student, CUNY Queens College
Date: 22 Oct 2004
Time: 12:36:53 -0500
Remote Name: 149.4.47.37

Comments

First of all, reading this article brings new meaning to the name so 
many of us have heard of in classes. It's fascinating to hear the story 
behind the name, and bring a new perspective to the ideas Van Riper 
has given to the field. Also, Van Riper's eventual response to his own 
stuttering seems so logical, though it seems to me from past 
experiences to be one of the last things so many think of. To that end, 
I also feel that his message is yet another example of how people 
need to find their own way to deal with issues in their lives. What 
works for one most certainly does not work for all, and that lesson 
must be carried into our work with those who stutter. It does not 
seem to me to be logical to force fluency on an individual, without 
regard to the idea that they may be most fluent when stuttering 
better. I feel that messages such as Van Riper's must be considered 
in helping a client to find the path that best meets their needs.

THANK YOU ALL

From: Judy Kuster
Date: 23 Oct 2004
Time: 13:06:21 -0500
Remote Name: 134.29.30.89

Comments

Thank you all for the thoughtful comments about Van Riper's 
timeless message. Judy Kuster

The threaded discussion is now closed

From: Judy Kuster
Date: 23 Oct 2004
Time: 13:07:06 -0500
Remote Name: 134.29.30.89

Comments

The live, threaded discussion part of the 2004 ISAD online 
conference is now closed. The conference paper and responses made 
here during the conference will remain online. Thank you for 
stopping by. Judy Kuster