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Minutes

68th MSSA Senate
April 18, 2001 Minutes

Budget Hearing

Meeting called to order by Speaker Roger White Owl

Roll Call
Senators Present
Michael Groenewold 24-1-0, Zach Biesanz 22-3-0, Jack Rector 25-0-0, Brian Mullin 5-0-0, Mikel Akers 25-0-0, Joe Muggli 17-0-0, Rhys Gaffer 17-0-0, Ian Radtke 25-0-0, Brian Mullin 3-0-0, Lori Fick-proxy Uzair Shaffi 14-2-1, Byron Pike 12-1-0, Rahael D. Noah 13-3-0, Nayoki Cormier 14-11-0, Amy Bicek 20-2-3, Stacy Wiech 22-1-2, LaRonne Prtichett 9-7-0, Karly Klein 21-3-0, John Helcl 6-1-0, Pete Wonsmos 7-2-0, Dan Peskorz 6-5-0
Senators Absent
Christina Ische 18-7-0, James Tung 3-1-0, Eric Loge 7-3-0
Officers Present
President Boyce, Vice President Tim Huebsch

Student Activity Program Subsidy Recommendations
Presentation and Appeals
Campus Recreation -Todd Pfingsten, Program Coordinator for Fitness and Special Programs. University has a need for the services which will be provided through this position. Compared to other schools we are under staffed.
Equipment-one time cost of $107,200. Open Recreation is our largest program where students can come in during their leisure time and work out, whether it be to lift weights, run on a treadmill, bike, stair machine. Program currently can not compare with YMCA or America's. Trying to get students back to campus instead of going to other centers.
Chair Mullin-There is on going discussion on whether this should be student run or if state should pick up costs.
New positions-committee agreed to not add new positions-did not want to fund only temporarily.
Equipment-is State responsible or students? These are major equipment requests that should have been included in the funding for the new building.

Reporter-Andy Rogers. Point of Reference regarding Graphics Supervisor. He designs adds,
keeps things up to date-this position is to hire him as a consultant. He teaches and is very valuable.
SAC is encouraging in-house training-that is impossible now because this is a highly specialized position.
Chair Mullin-It was the committee's understanding that in house training was being done. In their
request it was for $4500.00. Part of that is included in their budget.

Athletics-Tim Marshall, Shane Bowyer, Don Amiot
Funding a position for a Strength And Conditioning Coach. This would be combined with an Athletic
Training position. This new position would work with all of our student-athletes and coaches to coordinate their training and strength programs to not only become more productive but to also limit the potential for injury. The addition of the position would not only be a direct benefit to every student-athlete, the entire athletic department as well as the whole MSU community would see the positive results: Coaches would be available for more fundraising actives. The recruitment of potential student athletes would be easier. Various MSU and community groups could have access to this individual . Demonstrate a commitment to athletics that would promote MSU locally, regionally and nationally.
Shane-Coaches can not be put in a weight room. Athletes need consistency, liability is also an issue.
We want to be the best in the conference and in the region. Coaches need to be out recruiting. There is
a balance there. MSU needs a commitment that we are concerned about our athletes, and making them the best they can be. This person needs to be putting on clinics in the community. Vandalism and upkeep-repairs and maintenance would be less with someone responsible.
Don Amiot-Appreciate your help and support. This is just part of the next step-we see men and
women that want to be bigger, stronger, quicker, by funding this position along with Athletic Training
we can combine knowledge. This will help us be successful in the North Central Conference.
Chair Mullin-Intercollegiate Athletics asked us to look at Strength and Conditioning Coach-we viewed that again as funding for a new position. We are being consistent, not that it is not a good position.

Repertory Dance
SAC recommends a 2001-02 subsidy of $3,250
Recommendation passes

Ethnic Student Activities
SAC recommends a 2001-02 subsidy of $27,000
Proxy White Owl-how did you determine this amount?
Chair Mullin-That is what they requested minus some travel money that we saw no need to fund because of travel excesses in the past.
Senator Groenewold-Do you have proof of splurges?
Chair Mullin-We see student travel as something that should not be raised.
Senator Groenewold-You are basing your numbers on hear-say?
Chair Mullin-There was travel requested, but not specified. Student travel money should be used but not including a buffer. Student travel was $12,700 this past year.
Senator Pike-Many times only a small number of students were traveling-not doing presentations or
contributing. There is nothing to be gained by increasing this.
Recommendation passes

Forensics
SAC recommends a 2001-02 subsidy of $17,829
Recommendation passes

Health Services
SAC recommends a 2001-02 subsidy of $923,000
Senator Greoenwold--Does anyone know what biometic measure is?
Passes unanimously

Health Service Depreciation Fund
SAC recommends a 2001-02 subsidy of $34,500
Senator Groenewold-What is a sp unit?
President Boyce-A measure for checking breathing for patients with asthma.
Passes unanimously

Intercollegiate Athletics
SAC recommends a 2001-02 subsidy of $729,000
Senator Klein-Move to amend the Strength and
Conditioning Coach/Second by Boyce
Mote that the SAC recommendation for Intercollegiate Athletics budget be amended to include an additional $25,6000 for a Strength & Conditioning coach for FY 02.
Senator Klein-this is not a new position but will be combined with Athletic Training. Coaches do
not know everything about biometrics. We represent student body. We want MSU to grow in every thing
President Boyce-$25,800 minimal cost. State appropriation . Athletes are asking for this, It is time
we do this.
Senator Noah-Understand that this is going to be a combined position. What is the combination?
Don Amiot-We have a trainer that is certified as a trainer and a strength and conditioning coach.
Senator Noah-If in the future this funding is removed, what will happen to that position?
Don Amiot-If that happens-this position can generate dollars, we need to provide services. We will help
pay for that position if it would cease to exist.
Senator Rector-What is the percentage of money you have versus what you are requesting? We currently have $8,000 committed. About 35%.
Senator Wonsmos-I think that the support for student athletics is there-if an academic department wanted this they would not be receiving this funding.
Don Amiot-This is currently a grad student who is trained as a strength and conditioning coach.
Currently he does not do anything for strength and conditioning. We would like to keep him
and help him and grow and develop.
Senator Gaffer-This comment is in regard to what student athletes said during elections. If athletes
don't feel this way-they should be telling us.
Senator Biesanz-Would I be able to use this as a member of the Akida club.
Senator Biesanz-How much of a problem is vandalism?
Don Amiot-Taylor Center is in phases. We want people to see the weight room and strength and coaching and want to come here. Currently there is a lack of supervision.
Senator Klein-Regarding position-everyone would get more time if we had a trained position..
Senator Muggli-If this position could generate funds-why have it a one time funding?
Don Amiot-We want to get this up and started so that resources can be developed. There are ways
of generating additional dollars.
Vice President Huebsch-For the last two years we have heard that our athletes want this position.
Senator Pike-We had other new positions asked for-a new Dr. , Campus Rec.
Roll Call
Senators Voting Yes
Michael Groenewold, Lori Fick, Karly Klein, Stacy Wiech, Rhys Gaffer
Senators Voting No
Christina Ische, Byron Pike, Zach Biesanz, Nayoki Cormier, Rachel D. Noah, LaRonne Pritchett, Mikel Akers, Amy Bicek, John Helcl, Joe Muggli, Ian Radtke, Pete Wonsmos, Dan Peskorz
Senators Abstaining
Jack Rector, Brian Mullin
Executive Staff Voting Yes
President Chris Boyce, Vice President Tim Huebsch
Motion Fails
President Boyce-Senator Groenewold
Move for a one time allocation of $25,600 for the creation of a strength & Conditioning Coach.
Lets try it for a year.
Groenewold-concurr with president Boyce
Senator Wonsmos-We should go with the committee recommendations.
Senator Pike-10 cents a credit does mean a lot.
Senator Gaffer-Student athletes generate a lot of pride.
President Boyce-The current Athletic Trainer is an in house candidate.
Senator Klein-If he is good why can't we keep him?
Senator Akers-This is a new position. Us putting money into money is really dumb.
Senator Noah-I don't think it is necessary that this person go away. Attendance is low at sporting events. Things should be done to get more students out. Get some more revenue that way.
Senator Biesanz-I don't oppose this but we are giving them an increase as is.
Senator Mullin-SAC is recommending no new positions. This is new. It is new funding.
Senator Muggli-With the amount of money we are already funding-they can find their own way.
Senator Gaffer-We just got the Taylor Center and athletics is important to this school.
Senator Akers-Athletics is revenue-everyone does not attend athletic events.
Roll Call
Senators Voting Yes
Michael Groenewold, Lori Fick, Stacy Wiech, Karly Klein, Rhys Gaffer
Senators Voting No
Christina Ische, Byron Pike, Zach Biesanz, Nayoki Cormier, Rachel D. Noah, James Tung, LaRonne Pritchett, Mikel Akers, Amy Bicek, John Helcl, Joe Muggli, Ian Radtke, Pete Wonsmos, Dan Peskorz
Senators Abstaining
Jack Rector, Brian Mullin
Executive Staff Voting Yes
President Chris Boyce, Vice President Tim Huebsch
Motion fails

International Students
SAC recommends a 2001-02 subsidy of $30,000
Passes

Campus Recreation
SAC recommends a 2001-02 subsidy of $120,000
Senator Rector-We can't afford to give them the entire amount, but they do need some new equipment.
President Boyce-We should be tired of settling for second best. There are two areas, one we pay for
and one we don't. We should fund this for one time, it buys equipment.
Senator Rector/President Boyce
Move to allocate one time funding to Campus Recreation in the amount of $50,000 for equipment costs.
Senator Wonsmos-I would support this if all students could use it.
Motion passes

LGBC
SAC does not support creating a new line item. See SLD&SL

Senator Gaffer-I want to thank the SAC Committee for their recommendation.
Chair Mullin-They are to be funded as a line item within SLDSL for $2,000.
Senator Biesanz-LGBC is comfortable with their funding. They are fine with this recommendation.
Senator Radtke-They are OK with funding because they have no choice. They made deal with what they have. I would like to see this become a line item. I think they should have more money.
Moved by President Boyce-Second Sencator Wonsmos
Move to amend LGBC recommendation from $0 to $5,000 creating a new line item.

President Boyce-Even though this is programmatic dollars, it is important for awareness etc.
Senator Wonsmos-Women's Center and LGBC are long standing RSO's. We should fund these.
Senator Noah-Support this line item. The LGBC is more than something that puts on programs. LGBC
is line item at many schools. By supporting this as a line item, it is showing our support. If they get funding they can join with other groups.
Senator Pike-They are currently getting money from SAGE, and if they are a line item they could get
double. Because there is a Women's Center I would like to see a Man's Center.
Senator Biesanz-We have as many LGBC as we do athletes. They should get that amount of funding.
Chair Mullin-They can request their money through Student Development.

Recommendation passes

Mascot
SAC recommends no funding
Passes unanimously

Minnesota River Review
SAC recommends a 2001-02 subsidy of $7,070
Recommendation passes

Music Ensembles
SAC recommends a 2001-02 subsidy of $48,345
Recommendation passes

Premiere Lecture Series
SAC recommends a 2001-02 subsidy of $40,000
Passes

Recreation Sport Clubs
SAC recommends a 2001-02 subsidy of $20,000
Passes, Abstain Senator Noah

Reporter
SAC recommends a 2001-02 subsidy of $61,000
Senator Akers-You did say the money for the position was in there?
Chair Mullin-This was a compromise that we could agree on. We are giving them an unfunded
mandate, make do with what you have.
Senator Groenewold/Gaffer
Move that the Reporter be funded $64,495 for 2001-02 from the Student activity Fund.

Senator Groenewold-I don't think the chair sees the importance of position.
Senator Gaffer-In support of this. The Graphics position is down to a consultant.
Senator Wonsmos-Are there any other ways they could raise this funding?
Business Manager-They did not increase in any other areas. They need this position to train.
Senator Noah-You are asking for the original amount for training? Shouldn't this be a one time amount?
Business Manager-Hiring him as a consultant, and for maintenance. A Graphics person may not know how to maintain the equipment.
Senator Pike-They are getting their inflationary, they can charge more for ads. As in any business they
should have some one else trained.
Motion fails, abstain Boyce. Groenewold-abstain

Reporter Depreciation Fund
SAC recommends a 2001-02 subsidy of $4,000
Motion passes

SAF Administration
SAC recommends a 2001-02 subsidy of $167,623
Motion passes

Spirit/Cheerleaders
SAC recommends a 2001-02 subsidy of $10,000
Motion passes

Student Leadership Development & Service-Learning
SAC recommends a 2001-02 subsidy of $445,000
Senator Pike/Senator
Move to reduce the amount of $445,000 to $443,000 because of creating LGBC line item.
Chair Mullin-The Administration does have our interests in mind, they rarely overturn.
Amended motion-passes

Student Organizations (SOAFC)
SAC recommends a 2001-02 subsidy of $4,500
Passes

Student Senate
SAC recommends a 2001-02 Subsidy of $74,824
Passes

Theatre
SAC recommends a 2001-02 subsidy of $57,000
Senator Groenewold/Peskorz
Move that $59,857 to allocated to Theater for 2001-02
Senator Pike-They were happy with that amount, see no need to increase it.
Amended motion fails
Recommendation Passes

Women's Center
SAC recommends a 2001-02 subsidy of $8,000
Senator Wonsmos-They are happy, in the future we could give them more.
Recommendation Passes

Non-budgeted Fund Requests
SAC recommends allocating $30,000
Note: Funds used for Program and RSO Travel
Abstin-Angela White Owl

Senator Groenewold/Klein
Move for one time additional allocation of $3,495 for the Reporter for 2001-02.
Motion passes, abstain, Mullin, Wonsmos, Bicek

Move to approve the SAC budget with amendments.
Student Life/Activity Fee Per Credit Hour $7.50
Roll Call
Senators Voting Yes
Michael Groenewold, Lori Fick, Byron Pike, Zach Biesanz, Nayoki Cormier, Jack Rector, Rachel D. Noah, James Tung, LaRonne Pritchett, Karly Klein, Mikel Akers, Amy Bicek, John Helcl, Joe Muggli, Ian Radtke, Rhys Gaffer, Eric Loge, Pete Wonsmos, Dan Peskorz
Senators Voting No
Brian Mullin
Senators Abstaining
Stacy Wiech
Budget Passes
Adjournment
Roll Call
Senators Present
Michael Groenewold, Byron Pike, Nayoki Cormier, Jack Rector, Brian Mullin, Rachel D. Noah, Stacy Wiech-Proxy Angela White Owl, James Tung, LaRonne Pritchett, Karly Klein, Amy Bicek, John Helcl, Peter Wonsmos, Joe Muggli, Ian Radtke, Rhys Gaffer
Senators Absent
Lori Fick, Zach Biesanz, Mikel Akers, Eric Loge
Executive Staff Present
President Chris Boyce, Vice President Tim Huebsch