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Minnesota State University, Mankato
Minnesota State University, Mankato


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69th MSSA Senate
March 27, 2002

Meeting called to order at 4:03 by Speaker Rachel D. Noah

Roll Call (Present-Absent-Proxy-Excused)
Senators Present
Bethany Jackson 9-3-0, Samantha Gallion 10-2-0, Daniela Rumpf 24-0-0, Byron Pike 24-0-0, Ryan L. Haugen 5-0-0, Andrew Menden 24-0-0, Jessica Giordani 3-0-0, Richard Dueser 21-0-0, Brian Mullin 22-0-2, Jayson Read 24-0-0, Katie Garrity 24-0-0, Rhys Gaffer 3-0-0, Stephanie White 23-1-0, Ashley Guetter 20-0-0, Hailey Schmitz 2-0-0, Celeste Hollerud 5-0-0, Andy Nelson 4-0-0, Jessica Boyd 5-0-0, Monica Klein 18-2-4, Joe Muggli 24-0-0, Stacy Wiech 17-0-3, Ian Radtke 22-0-1-1, Zach Biesanz 17-0-3, James Tung 23-1-0, Cassandra Linkenmeyer 17-2-1,

Senators Absent

Ryan Austad 15-4-0
Executive Staff Present

President White Owl

Approval of Agenda

Amendment to agenda- Senator Linkenmeyer moved to move her senator’s report to after the presentation due to a training class that she needs to attend. Second. Passed.

Presentation-Carly Tully, Athletic Advisory

Presentation mainly done by students

Jay Larson, MSU basketball player and president of the student advisory committee- described the purpose of the committee. There are two students from each sport and they meet twice a month to discuss the student athlete experience at MSU. Goal is to enhance the student athlete experience here. We do that three ways. We work as kind of a middle ground between the administration and our teammates, if there is an issue coming from the top. They talk to us and we talk to our teammates and also the other way around. If our teammates have an issue they come to us and we talk to the administration. We also give in put into NCAA legislation. Every year the NCAA comes out with new rules and this gives us the opportunity to say if we like it or dislike it. We also perform service projects around the community. We have done ECHO, we have done Habitat for Humanity and we go into the elementary schools and do some reading and projects. We are here today to first of all thank you for your support of MSU Athletics through the money that you give us. We know that in a few weeks you will be voting and we just want to thank you. Things going on in the Athletic Dept. now, there are new facilities that you are well aware of. These are basically state of the art facilities that put us at the top of the Conference. We have a bunch of great energetic young coaches and great student athletes here. We basically feel that our athletic department is moving in the right direction. The biggest piece that we feel that is missing is the Strength and Conditioning Coach. The summer is the best time for an athlete to train for their season. It is the time for an athlete to train individually. I went home for the summer with my workout-it was basically 5 sheets of paper. My brother also came home from the University of North Dakota with a whole packet with his name on it. Their Strength Coach developed this whole workout. He did this for every athlete. This is what goes on all over the country. Everyone gets tailored programs. A football player needs certain muscles more than a basketball player that needs more shoulder and chest work. I did some research and all the Division I schools have a strength coach and 7 out of the 9 in the NCC. As you know our Hockey Team plays in the WCHA. Athletes want to get bigger, faster, stronger. That was not the case years ago. Twenty years ago you could get by with out being very strong. Now if you are not getting bigger, stronger, faster you will have a difficult time at success. We have a lot of very good coaches here, that are very knowledgeable but they do not have the expertise in strength. A Strength Coach would work will all 600 of our student athletes to develop programs, work with teams, and develop preseason conditioning to help them achieve success. We are also looking into how this coach can benefit more than just the student body. As far as helping our performance and winning more games and getting more support and getting the edge with school spirit, this person will help with Human Performance classes, they can aid the student Health services by helping with programs on fitness and nutrition. We would like this person to help out so that a Regular student can come in and develop a weight training program. We figure the money will have to come out of student fees. At Student Allocation’s we figured it would cost about .15 cents per credit hour on a 12 credit scale and that would cover the cost of a Strength cost. And we figure .15 cents is not too much, it is about a few pops that we all have too many of and we figure that for that price we will get a lot and MSU as a whole will get a lot.

Karly Klein- I represent the Women’s swim team. Feel the addition of a Strength and Conditioning Coach would aid all student athletes, the health nurses, anyone that cared to ask questions. This could be adapted to all students. With Vice President Shaffi’s assistance we created a petition which clearly stated at the top our mission and where the money would be coming from. Each member or staff was given a petition to disburse to their own athletes. Initial goal was 1,200 signatures, surpassed that and reached almost 1800 signatures which I am going to present to President White Owl. We collected signatures from housing complexes, we set up tables in the CSU for six days. To attract people to our table we had the t.v. going showing games. To make sure people understood we provided a fact sheet that was available for students to take that had answers to questions. The goal was stated clearly at the top of the petition. The main service was to alert the student body of our request. By distributing the fact sheet and petitions we felt we could gain support from those students that choice to sign the petition. There were 1,800 signatures on the petition.

Tracie Hittman-Representative for the Women’s Track and Field team. Last year the Athletic training room provided 13,600 treatments to injured athletes. This is because proper weight lifting techniques are not taught. When athletes come to college their bodies are not properly prepared for the discipline of a college sport. A Strength and Conditioning coach could teach proper weight lifting techniques and could spend an adequate amount of time with freshmen athletes to ease them into a vigorous weightlifting schedule and this would eliminate many injuries. This past year a freshman athlete was doing improper squats and pulled a ham string a week before Conference. This did not allow her to perform at her best. Injuries like this could be eliminated by a Strength and Conditioning coach. Also having a coach in the weight room would make it easier for training to be scheduled around class, students could come in during their free time. Coaches would also be able to concentrate on recruiting which is vital to our program and the Strength & Conditioning coach can talk to incoming freshmen also for recruiting purposes. Many athletes may choose to come to MSU if we have this aspect. If these students are prepared, injuries can be eliminated. In the end strength equals performance in order to compete at a college level. It is imperative to have a Strength and Conditioning coach.

Brian Vossen-Student and football player for the last four years. A big part of being a student athlete is staying here in the summers. You have a real hard time getting athletes to stay here. The NCAA just passed a rule that says student athletes can train with Strength coaches over the summer which would be phenomenal if we had one. UND, the defending National Football Champions have over 60 athletes that train all year around. At MSU we have only about 15 that stay in the summer. I can’t justify staying because if I go home not only do I have a certified Strength and Conditioning coach there are also two assistants. This is just a public high school at Lakeville. This is a major university that competes in the NCC, one of the top Conferences in the nation. Realize I was fortunate in high school, many athletes have not had that and that is where injuries come from, just after they get here. You redshirt your first year to build yourself up to compete at this level. If you don’t have a Strength and Conditioning coach that year is wasted. If you don’t do lifts properly, you get injuries. Lifting is not only sport specific but it is position specific. I mean, do you think that Randy Moss and Chris

Carter have the same workouts? It is ridiculous to think that a wide receiver and a defensive lineman should be doing the same things to better themselves for the seasons. In the past because we haven’t had a strength coach our coaches got the strength and conditioning knowledge. They have sport specific knowledge but they don’t know how to teach the proper weight lifting, the percentage reps, nutrition and all the things it takes to build a strength and conditioning program. Because of it they hand out a flyer to you with a handful of lifts on it and you do them. But the guys from UND and SDSU and other teams have complete sport specific programs that they can go home with and know exactly what they are supposed to do. You need a fully time job to set up something specific like that. We complete in the NCC and the WCHA. The NCC is an elite conference, it is the number one conference in the nation for Division II athletics. Everyone knows what the WCHA is so my question is? “Why is it that Lakeville High School has a better Strength & Conditioning program than a university of such an elite conference. I guess that is what I have struggled with though out this whole process. I wonder how much difference could have been made by a lot of guys if they would have had the first two years

instead of a trial and error learning how to lift. We could do some amazing things here at this school, and I know that it seems that it is only for the athletes, but the athletic program is a big part of a university, a real big part and school spirit could do a lot for this university. It is time for the Strength Coach.

Carlene Tully- Assistant Volleyball coach. Would like to speak on behalf of the coaching staff. Expertise is in Volleyball, train skills, train passing, blocking, setting. Knowledge of weight lifting comes from what received in college. Attended a small Division II school out in the middle of no where. They had a Strength and Conditioning Coach. Strength and Conditioning was one of the most important things we had. Also went home with a huge packet of lifting and biometrics and conditioning that I had to do all summer. We do what we can here to provide that for our athletes but there is not enough time in a day to create a lifting program, to make recruiting calls, to run practice, to do everything that goes along with coaching. Most of the coaches on this campus teach classes, to add that into that the day is shot. So for most of us the strength and conditioning programs that we use have been used for ten years. As with many other things, programs change, with limited money I try to find out what is the latest in Volleyball, I unfortunately can’t afford to take that money and use it for strength and conditioning . That is why we need the Strength and Conditioning Coach. We would all work together and try to develop specific programs. Right now the whole team does the same program. That is not necessarily the way it should be. We have defensive specialists that need to be making moves on the floor but they don’t attack a lot. But we have attackers that don’t spend a lot of time playing defense, so there may be programs better suited for the attackers than the defensive specialists. But again, I don’t have that knowledge yet because I spend my time finding the moves to get them into the air so they can attack, if anything we spend time on polymetrics. The NCAA only allows coaches to work with their athletes 20 hours a week. Add into that traveling study halls, and the time becomes very crunched. We try to manipulate class conflicts and find times when students can lift. If they can lift at noon., I have to teach a class at noon. They can’t be in the weight room without a Strength and Conditioning Coach or someone watching them, because it is a liability. If someone gets hurt, we get in big trouble. Strength and Conditioning coaches can give a lot of knowledge to everybody; they could provide schedules of lifting. There are times when there are five sports in the weight room at one time and it is almost impossible to get anything done. The last thing I would like to reiterate is my concern for freshmen. Brian mentioned that the NCAA allows Strength and Conditioning Coaches to work with athletes over the summer, previously any coach working with an athlete would be considered practice time and that was no allowed during the summer. Without a Strength and Conditioning Coach it will put our program behind. About half of our girls will be staying here this summer. When are they going to lift? I have to be recruiting all summer and doing camps. Who is going to let them into the weight room so they can lift? I think we need a Strength and Conditioning Coach. It is going to help our athletes get stronger and keep up with North Dakota and North Dakota State and the universities that do have Strength and Conditioning Coaches.

Allison Roman-Jr. on the Soccer team. Would like to reinterate a few of the ways that a coach would benefit all students on campus, not just student athletes. The obvious thing is that the level of play for all athletes would increase. Better play equals more fan turnout. This coach could help teach training and Human Performance classes and speak in health classes. Students could receive expert advice; right now it is like well, maybe this coach knows that or this one knows this. This person would be a great resource. The goals of the coach would be to work in conjunction with Health Services, develop lifting and nutrition programs. We would love to have this happen and be available for everyone.

Jay Larson- Lessens injuries. Coaches could do more recruiting. An asset for the student body. $15 cents a credit. I am finishing up here, it has been a privilege to be involved in athletics. We spend a lot of time, we go on road trips, we want to thank you guys for making that possible. We have great athletes, administration, fans, but feel we are not as prepared as we should be without a Strength and Conditioning Coach.

Senator Muggli - How would the coach time be split between teaching and coaching?

Jay Larson-Right now there are no definite plans, they could be a speaker, lecturer, work in Human Performance.

Senator Gaffer-Do other schools’ student fees pay for this kind of coach?

Jay Larson-I am sure our Athletic Director would know that more than we do. This is the avenue we felt was best at MSU.

President White Owl- Are we the only school without a Strength & Conditioning Coach in the conference?

Jay Larson-St. Cloud State does not have one, they kind of do just what we do with their trainers and the coaches don’t know much about it. The other seven schools do have Strength and Conditioning Coach. Again, I don’t know where the funding comes from. A few of the schools have a Strength and Conditioning Coach and 1 or 2 assistants, and that is just in our North Central Conference.

Senator Garrity- Would you be able to give up funding in other areas to fund this?

Jay Larson- From what we’ve seen, student fees are the only way. Our sports teams don’t have many staff. Basketball has two assistants, Wrestling only has one Grad Assistant; most programs don’t have adequate staff to give anything up.

Senator Gaffer- Is there anything planned to hire GA’s to work with this coach?

Coach Tully-Our Athletic Director would know more about that, we are just trying to get one coach on staff first.

Senator Gaffer- You do need the coach first?

Senator Muggli- Could we put this coach under campus recreation so it would be more accessible to students?

Jay Larson-I am not sure how that would work.

Senator Boyd- Could the fact sheet be made available to the senate?

Senator Read- Do you know roughly what the coach’s salary would be?

Jay Larson-Refer to Coach Tully

Coach Tully-In order to hire a qualified strength and conditioning coach, they’d have to be about the salary of what a head coach here is being paid by the university. I am an assistant coach right now, I get paid about $30,000. For those of you who don’t know, my husband, Doug Tully is the head volleyball coach, so I obviously know exactly how much he makes. So he’s making about $35,000-$40,000 when you add camp money. So the goal is to hire a strength and conditioning coach at about $35,000 plus and all that kind of stuff. So that gives you an idea. That’s why we want to make sure they’re a qualified individual because they are going to be paid that amount of money. Does that answer your question?

Senator Read-Yes, definitely. Thank you.

President White Owl- Do you feel the amount of signatures is an overwhelming majority?

Jay Larson-I’d say the overwhelming majority-there’s 12,000 people here, and I think we did a good job of getting the word out and getting people to sign this. I feel, in talking to people while we did this, obviously we didn’t hit every corner of this town to get these signatures, but a lot of people were behind this and a lot of people understand our situation, but I don’t think by adding this 15 cents, it’s going to cause a big uproar.

Senator Mullin-I’m going to be showing my ignorance here in a little bit. First off, I agree with you on this, a need for a Strength and Conditioning coach, but I have a question for you. You had mentioned before that St. Cloud is the only other school in our conference that is in the WCHA that does not have a Strength and Conditioning coach. If you could explain to me, just opinion-wise, how the numbers shake out for that, because I know that’s a sport that I follow very well, and although I’m not an athlete, they took second place.

Speaker-Senator Mullin, could you restate your question please?

Senator Mullin-Actually, I just wanted to know: They don’t have a Strength and Conditioning Coach

Jay Larson-Yeah, and also, St. Cloud went to Division 1 hockey about 10 years before we did. St. Cloud has four full time Athletic Trainers…

Speaker Noah- I’m sorry, just for the purpose of the minutes, we don’t know what the question is.

Speaker-He wants to know why they got second in the basketball conference, and we didn’t.

Senator Mullin-I’m just curious.

Speaker Noah-So you want their opinion of why St. Cloud did a great job when they did not have a Strength and Conditioning Coach?

Jeff Chambers-In a sense, no, and in a sense yes. They have a.50 Strength and Conditioning Coordinator that is combined with their head athletic trainer. The head athletic trainer is paid 50% strength and conditioning, 50% athletic training, so they get both. The real upside: they have over, I think, 4.5 full time certified Athletic Trainers. They have a full time certified Athletic Trainer, two graduate assistant certified Athletic Trainers, that probably help them out with strength and conditioning in women’s hockey. That’s all they do, is men’s and women’s hockey. You see what I’m saying? We have graduate assistant certified athletic trainers in charge-one in charge of men’s hockey, and one in charge of women’s hockey. Graduate assistants are only paid to work 20 hours a week. Do they work 20 hours a week in athletics? No. My graduate assistants in hockey, who are certified athletic trainers, probably average 40 hours a week, plus going to school. Do they have time to get involved in the strength and conditioning for the sport? No. They’re taking 9-12 credits, plus doing a certified athletic trainer’s full time paid job for 20 hours. They’re getting paid for 20 hours-20 hours a week, $8,000. So, it’s not quite the same level playing field because they have 4 full time plus GA’s who can help with that.

Jay Larson-I just have to say I was supposed to be at the Technical College 13 minutes ago, and I had this engagement planned for a couple months, so I appreciate your time. I’m personally going to leave. Coach Tully and anyone else who wants to answer questions. The other thing-I invite you all to come to one of our meetings if you want to talk to us further. Coach Tully is in the directory, get a hold of her, and I really appreciate everything you guys do. Thank you.

Senator Garrity- Were the students signing this petition aware that not only this was for the Strength and Conditioning Coach and it would increase their fees but that this would be an addition to the athletic budget? Did students know that this cost is above and beyond the athletics budget request?

Coach Tully- I believe so, I mean, at the top of the petition, it does state right on top that the money would come from student allocated fees. A fact sheet was provided, questions were asked. If everybody knew that, I can’t answer that question, but I would say that if they read the information, and they talked to the representative, and added their signature, then yes, they would know that.

Senator Pike-Yes, I am looking at this fact sheet,

Coach Tully-That’s not the fact sheet that was provided for the petition. That’s actually a fact sheet that we put together for you guys today.

Senator Pike-Well, do we have the fact sheet that was with the petition?

Senator Garrity-When is the time of the meeting?

Coach Tully- We will meet next Tuesday at 9:00 pm in CSU 203. We usually meet at 9pm on Tuesday nights because that’s the only time we can get our athletes together. Many meetings Uzair-Vice President Shaffi-has attended. I don’t know Rhys’ last name, but Rhys has been at the meetings, so other people have attended the meetings also, so you are welcome to come anytime.

Senator Tung-When do you use a coach the most in the school year?

Coach Tully-Throughout the whole semester, I can speak specifically for volleyball, our season is in the fall. Our team comes in early August, and starts training, and the season doesn’t end till mid-November. During that time, we do continue to lift Monday and Wednesday, Fridays if we’re not competing that weekend. So our season, once we’re done in November, we give the team the rest of the semester off to study for finals. Then, when we come back in January, the first thing we do, and the first thing classes together and we do our lifting. We start the first day of the semester, and lift Monday, Wednesday and Friday. We do biometrics and conditioning Tuesday and Thursday, so for us, it is a year round thing, and for other sports, it is an all year round thing. So this person would actually have to be available 12 months of the year

Jeff Chambers-I just have a couple comments in regards to your question, and in regards to students. I don’t really think you will know how many students will take advantage of this position that are not student athletes. I think –Campus Rec may have to hire someone eventually also, to help with that need. You’ve got 1800 signatures and a lot of people I see getting into health and fitness-it may be needed elsewhere also. To say how much we’re going to be able to do for students, other than student athletes right now is kind of putting the job in front of the horse, because you just don’t know till the job description is written, what is going to happen. I think that person is going to be working 80 hours a week. That’s my opinion. And that is a certified athlete trainer that works 80 hours a week. I also want to come back and say that I think the mission of this university is to have students come to this university and fulfill their potential, whether it be in athletics or in any other area. And I believe that for our student athletes, that to fulfill their potential, this is something that they definitely-and I am a certified athletic trainer, and I also have Strength and Conditioning specialist certification. It is something we need to have to reach their full potential as student athletes. To be able to do, and meet, and accomplish the goals to become the best student athlete they can be.

Senator Gaffer- Would it be fair to say that if the strength and conditioning coach would be available to student athletes and if they are doing their best job it could help us generate revenue?

Jeff Chambers-That’s a very good question that I can’t quite answer. But the bottom line is, in order to get people in the stands you have to put a winning crowd on the floor. People aren’t coming out to watch the losers, they’re coming out to watch the winners. I don’t know of any students on campus that are interested in athletics that want to see our team lose. Where there are transfers or not? But if you help the athletes we get here reach their potential and peak at that next level, I’ve seen it happen, I’ve been involved in it. You can take individual athletes and move them to another level if they’re trained and conditioned correctly. There is no doubt about it. And the knowledge level that is out there, and the things that are changing daily and weekly in this field, coaches and myself need to keep up on it as a certified athletic trainer

At $30,000 a year, for someone of that caliber, I think there is those two qualities looking for in that job. That first year organizing that athletic training unit and that strength and conditioning program, and having the ability to write those programs, get it on computer, have that available for us to evaluate strengths and weaknesses of individual athletes and teams, and be able to accomplish that, they’re going to work their tail off those first couple of weeks. But I think if you get somebody that has some experience, and is maybe looking to move from an assistant to a head strength and conditioning coach, you’re going to find somebody who wants to do that, to better themselves, to take on that challenge. We all like to take on new challenges, I mean, that’s why I took this job, it was a different, and a new challenge from where I was at.

Senator Pike-I just got done with the fact sheet. Was this made available throughout the whole duration of people signing this petition?

Coach Tully-No it wasn’t. After the first week of doing the petition, it was brought to our attention that there were some questions that the people we had sitting at the table were unable to answer. At that time, we created the fact sheet and had it sitting on the table the second week. We were sitting at the table two days the first week, and we made it available the second week. I do want to hand out a couple of business cards in case anyone would like to contact me.

Senator Pike-Did you have 1800 signatures after the first week?

Coach Tully, no, not after the first week.

Senator Pike- All I was saying is that I know students signed, and they really didn’t know what they were signing, but someone in their class told them to sign it. I was just concerned, I mean, about what does this mean, because other students signed it. I also know for a fact that the 15 cents per credit hour was not figured out until the SAC meeting.

Coach Tully-I do understand the point that you are attempting to make here. When we started the idea of a petition, we were working with Vice President Shaffi. I talked to our administration, in order to provide a Strength and Conditioning Coach, they came up with $35,000. From there we did the math and figured out that it would be about $2 per student in the fee. As you can imagine, we’re not getting funds after that. You guys had your meeting and at the time set it at 15 cents per credit hour. So if you do the math, it comes out to be about the same amount. So when we first started the petition, we were talking about a $2 increase per student per semester. There was then a change to 15 cents, and Vice President Shaffi felt that was a better number to go by, and a lot easier for people to understand. Is that understanding your statement?

President White Owl-You have to keep in mind that 1800 signed the petition, can we sign the petition now?

Senator Garrity- How many people signed the petition before the fact sheet came out?

Coach Tully-In the week that we had it out, about 600 athletes signed that petition. After the fact sheet was created, we had a few people signing, but really not until that second week when we have people hitting the dorms, and go after people, so not the majority of the 1800 signatures.

Coach Tully-We’d like to thank you for your support, and in the future. If you would like to contact me, I’m going to give my business card to Rachel, you can contact me through phone or email, please, if you have any questions, and you are more than welcome to come to our staff meetings, so thank you and have a good day.

Vice President Trauger, Finance & Administration

This is my annual visit to Senate, I wish I could get here more often and talk about issues besides tuition. From your earlier discussion you are aware of some of the challenges this university has in trying to provide all the experience for students. Money has been very tough to come by in State support. Would like to inform you of the university budget situation and how it plays into tuition discussion. More finalized figures will be presented April 9 at a budget meeting, this could show a tuition raise as high as 7 percent. MSU has not had as much funding as they had in 1999. Proposed tuition rates will rise from $122.25 per credit to $128.35 for residents, while non-residents will pay $271.55, up from $258.60. Tuition is one of the components of the budget and state appropriation is the other and that is why we have some of the challenges that we do-in how much the state is allocating to higher education and how much filters down to MSU. MSU ranked 18th out of twenty-four institutions on appropriations with $4710 per student compared to average of $6109. We are about $1400 under the average of this peer group. That is one of the challenges in terms of tuition,

in terms of the Strength and Conditioning Coach, adding money to fund positions like that. Shift has been in student tuition, over 42% paid by student tuition. Gain has been on student tuition side, State appropriation has lagged. Duluth is the most expensive school, $2922. Mankato is ranked in the middle with $1809.00. Wisconsin is the lowest. We are looking at a ballpark tuition raise of 5 %-7%. The biggest problem in giving to specific a number is that the faculty bargaining unit has only a tentative agreement and we have been working to try and cost that out, and it is fairly complex, because of when increases for faculty will take affect. We would like tuition increase to be as low as possible, but there are automatic career steps for faculty. MSU’s reserves should be up next year because of a milder winter; enrollment is a little higher than projected, which should bring in addition tuition income; and the fall’s employee strike saved MSU about $35,000. University meetings are scheduled for April 9 for anyone that has questions regarding the University budget.

Senator Gaffer- Where does our reserve fund sit?

Vice President Trauger- We’re below the Minnesota State level

Committee Reports

SAC –Byron Pike, Chair

SAC R #03.27.02 A Passes unanimously

SAC recommends to allocate $23,000 to Campus Recreation to make up for their budget shortfall

due to making the facilities completely free to the students.

Chair Pike-Last year, we had to pay a fee to use the facilities. They made the choice to be free because we asked them to. Campus Rec possibly affects the most people out of any dollar amount that we spend. The money will come out of our reserve which we have about $240,000 of. This affects nearly 1300 people per day. If we don’t give them this there is the possibility they will have to lessen hours, which no one wants to see happen .

Speaker Noah-Where does the surplus go at the end of the year?

Chair Pike-We maintain it.

Speaker Noah-SAF maintains it?

Chair Pike-Yes

Senator Read- This loss will be included in the budget from now on?

Chair Pike- Yes.

Senator Gaffer- If this isn’t passed, with the impact it would have on Campus Recreation-I yield.

Senator Radtke- This is a good way to spend our money. I part take in Campus Rec, use the facilities. With last year’s money, we have new equipment which gives more people time to use this simultaneously. They did make it free to all students, it used to be $40 per student.

Senator Muggli- When we took the tour, you guys saw how many people were in there and that almost speaks for itself.

Senator Gaffer- I would move to table this motion until we have our whole budget hearing so we know more information about the money rolled back to SAC.

Motion fails

SAC R #03.27.02 B passes

SAC recommends to allocate up to $550.00 to St. Thomas More Newman Center for their service trip to Cincinnati, Ohio.

Speaker Noah- Has this money already been allocated?

Chair Pike- No, we were recognizing the allocation.

Senator Boyd- How are they eligible?

Chair Pike- They are an RSO

Approval of Minutes (03/20/02) Approved

Officer Reports

President Roger White Owl

Attended the Nellie Stone Johnson Dinner in the Twin Cities on Thursday and the MSUSA Delegate Assembly last weekend in the Twin Cities. The new State Chair of MSUSA is Yorum Marcel from St. Cloud. The Vice Chair is Erica Nelsen of Winona. The CLASA organization will be having a conference next weed.

Speaker Rachel D. Noah

Recognized Student Organization-Initial Recognition-Mankato Sportbike Association- approved, Phi Upsilon Omicron-

Correspondence: Malcolm O’Sullivan-The President has received and reviewed SAC resolution #03.06.02A

Recommending funding up to $1,120 for the qualifier from Maverick Forensics to travel to the Interstate Oratory National Tournament.

Coordinator Reports

Intergovernmental Coordinator-Rhys Gaffer

Redistricting- campus is still going to be split. Really important to know who your legislators are. Yield to President White Owl

President White Owl

Elections- still looking for on campus polling places and election judges

HF3690- exempts Minnesota State Universities from the contract freeze. Write to support this bill.

There has been no more mention of the MLK highway.

Senator Read-What’s an election judge?

Coordinator Gaffer-University faculty and staff that sit at the polling tables and give out ballots.

Senator Nelson- What was the house file?

Coordinator Gaffer-HF3690

Senator Reports

Ashley Guetter-Undeclared

Good news & bad, good news, will be staying at MSU and planning to go into Nursing. Will be living in the Quads with 2 friends. Bad news, will be resigning from Elections Committee since I’m staying this could be a conflict of interest. The Freshman pool is going to happen. Emailed Michael Walsh two weeks ago. Change takes time. Continue to ask. Emailed my Representative (Marty Seifert) and he wrote back within 1 hour. Will be an election judge at Girls State this summer.

Senator Boyd- Since you will be here, will we see you in the office?

Senator Guetter-Yes, I will be in the office.

Byron Pike-College of Business

SAC report

Senator Pike-Tech Fee- Have been hearing from students that they are in favor of what we did.

Senator Gaffer- Why was the presentation of Vice President Johnson and Tim not as prepared as the SAC proposal?

Reporter-We are giving them their stories, seems like it is us against them.

Rhys Gaffer-Social & Behavioral Science

Ian Radtke-Off-Campus

Parking Advisory Committee: Gold permits stay at $210. Light Green goes to $150. Orange goes to $84.

9 stalls by Crawford go to faculty stalls. 7 stalls by Utility Plant (Purple/Gold)

99 stalls in Lot 17 will go Gold (from 20 Gold)

Internet2 – OC48 (2.4 Glps) Backbone, D53 (622 Mbps) and for dedicated node

We will connect via our existing 8Mbps line through our connection to Minnesota State.

Education only on the network. 70 corporate nodes from university affiliates.

Examples: Remote Medical visualization, full-room video countering, remote Astronomy data acquisition. Welcome to all the new senators. Now you’ve had your first taste of senate budget meetings, I offer my help with any questions. READ THE SAC BUDGET PRIOR TO THE MEETING! Ask questions before hand.

Senator Muggli- Why did the Wiecking lot go gold?

Senator Radtke

Senator Boyd- Why do they feel they need Internet 2?

Senator Radtke

Speaker Noah-- Did Al Gore

Senator Radtke

Senator Schmitz- Will internet 2 help the bandwidth in the dorm?

Senator Radtke-

Senator Guetter- Will all computers be able to use this?

Senator Radtke

Rick Dueser-Graduate Studies

- see outline

Senator Read-When you get a full time position, can you let me know so I can send my kids?

Senator Dueser-I would be honored.

Daniela Rumpf

Amnesty Nap-In against torture and abuse of human rights will be coming up soon. Work at Indigo. Eliminate Hate Week-participate. Entered work in Seattle during spring break. All work got rejected. Search committee for Ceramics professor. Art works-Student show, Art gallery in CSU. Open room for summer month May-Aug.

Speaker Noah- who did the sculptures in the Conklin gallery?

Senator Rumpf-That would be, I think, Aaron Conley.

Senator Giordani-Is FUC still cosponsoring the sage dance?

Monica Klein

Please read over the SAC budget requests. There were a lot of questions asked earlier that could be answered by looking this over. Felt that Student Athletic Advisory Committee’s presentation was really good. I agree with Speaker Noah and Senators Dueser and Gaffer. Good working with all of the senators, good luck to those going elsewhere and also to those running for a seat on next year’s senate. We should let Uzair know we are thinking about him. Roger gave me his

Email address.


Speaker Noah-Remember Uzair. The Social and Behavioral Science seat formerly held by Ryan Austad is now vacant.

It’s ok to have questions about the budget.

Senator Read -At 10pm ? Jesse Ventura?

President White Owl-Just to let everyone know, and for Senators Pike and Muggli. Please don’t let you discussion bother you. Uzair and I never felt anything personal either.

Senator Wiech-I’m not Cheri, and I love you guys all, but please turn in your outlines because I have a feeling that if there are missing outlines, Cheri may just for the first time kill me in the morning.

Senator Giordani-Tomorrow night in the Indigo. Celebration of Women’s Work

Senator Muggli- Today Dean Trauger also came to the Student Services and talked about pay increases for our student workers. So we can discuss it at next Wednesday’s meeting. Eliminate Hate:I change myself, I change my world. Educate leaders on cultural diversity.

Senator Gaffer- A couple things. Eliminate Hate. Watch Live Homosexual Acts. I will be unable to attend Zach’s grand opening on the 6th, it’s my wife’s birthday, so have a good time. Today is my last day as staff writer for the Reporter, no conflict of interest with elections

Speaker Noah-Okay to have questions, very important to question. Possible pizza for budget meeting. You are very appreciated, making incredibly important decisions.

Roll Call

Senators Present

Bethany Jackson, Daniela Rumpf, Byron Pike, Ryan Haugen, Andrew Menden, Jessica Giordani, Richard Dueser, Brian Mullin, Jayson Read, Katie Garrity, Rhys Garrer, Stephanie White, Ashley Guetter, Hailey Schmitz, Celeste Hollerud, Andy Nelson, Jessica Boyd, Monica Klein, Joe Muggli, Stacy Wiech, Ian Radtke, Zach Biesanz-proxy Perkins

Senators Absent

Samantha Gallion,

Executive Staff Present

President White Owl

Adjournment 7:42 PM