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69th MSSA Senate
October 17, 2001 Minutes

Meeting called to order by Speaker Rachel D. Noah

Roll Call (Present-Absent-Proxy-Excused)

Senators Present

Daniela Rumpf 9-0-0, Byron Pike 9-0-0, Beenish Malhi 5-0-0, Rachael Horne 8-1-0, Andrew Menden 5-0-0, Matt Osmondson 6-2-0, Richard Dueser 5-0-0, Brian Mullin 9-0-0, Jayson Read 9-0-0, Katie Garrity 9-0-0, Parrish Jones 8-1-0, Ryan Austad 4-1-0, Stephanie White 9-0-0, Ashley Guetter 5-0-0, Jacob Helgeson 3-4-0-2, Adam Poole 8-0-0-1, Mikel Akers 9-0-0, Jason Casey 7-1-1, Monica Klein 8-0-1, Joe Muggli 9-0-0, Stacy Wiech 5-0-0, Ian Radtke 9-0-0, Zach Biesanz 5-0-0, James Tung 9-0-0

Senators Absent

Dan Peskorz 5-3-1, Omni Peterson 4-1-0

Executive Staff Present

President Roger White Owl, Vice President Uzair Shaffi

Stacy Harbaugh, LGBC

LGBC Office will be putting on Safe Zone Program, program that fell by wayside and now brought back to campus. Everyone is encouraged to attend. 3 hour training on Gay Lesbian lives in education. Excellent for faculty and staff to aid students. Students encouraged to attend. Campus will be safer and free of homophobia. Students will learn to be more open minded. Brown Bag Lunch series relevant to community. Drag shows have been fun. Currently training peer advocates. Receiving good support from the administration

Coordinator Gaffer-Regarding activity fee subsidy that was given to your office, what does that do for the office?

Ms. Harbaugh-Office has been staffed by a grad student, last year they were allocated $5,000 for programming, this was huge even though they have been on campus for 25 years they were not able to do much programming. Now able to bring in speakers on their own with out collaboration.

Senator Mullin-How closely do you work with the Women’s Center?

Ms. Harbaugh-Will be working with Women’s History Month. We do things together and as separate entities.

President White Owl-When will the Safe Zone Training be?

Ms. Harbaugh-Monday, November 5. 6-9 Ballroom.

Approval of Minutes (10-3-01) (10-10-01) Minutes approved

Student Forum

Danya Orellana-Americorp. VDay 2002 Contest. Helping stop rape in community. All full-time and part-time MSU students are eligible to enter. Write an action plan that describes your idea to stop rape in your community. Plans should be creative and non-violent Deadline to apply is December 7, 2001

Officer Reports

President Roger White Owl

Dean Search of Library Oct. 18. MSSA Conference Room. Oct. 22 MSSA Conference Room

Met with Dr. Healy today regarding agenda for Meet & Confer.

Appointments: Union Board-Amanda Dyslin

MSUSA Campus Rep-Ashley Guetter

MSUSA Cultural Diversity Rep-Beenish Mahli

Aviation program is going on. Contract has been signed.

MSUSA next week.

Vice President Uzair Shaffi

Happy that the strike is over. Have two openings in Allied Health and Nursing. Homecoming was great except for the Jalapeno eating contest.

Committee list is available in the Speaker’s office. If you have not applied for a committee do so.

Senator Muggli-Clarify when the list was given to the Speaker?

Vice President Shaffi-Last week.

Senator Muggli-When will Ethics be appointed?

Vice President Shaffi-Open to applications. There is only one opening for a senator position.

Senator Muggli-How is this information being given out?

Vice President Shaffi-There are five openings and this is gotten out by word of mouth.

Senator Klein-I understand Jessica Boyd has applied for several committees. Is she going

To receive an appointment.

Senator Pike-Have you considered running an ad in the Reporter?

Vice President Shaffi-Yes, we could run an ad in the Reporter.

Senator Muggli-I heard there was a constitution for the Tech Roundtable. How can I see this?

Vice President Shaffi-I did receive a copy and I will have it available.

Coordinator Gaffer-Is the Student Tech Roundtable a stand alone committee or is it part of the MSSA?

Vice President Shaffi-It is a stand alone committee.

Motion #10.17.01 Senator Tung/Senator Mullin

Moved to require the ad hoc committee investigating the aviation program to provide a recommendation to the Student Senate in two weeks.

Senator Tung-Since the contract is signed why not end the committee now?

Senator Pike-Two weeks is a huge limitation because we have new facts coming daily. We want to

do a correct report. I would be against this motion.

Senator Muggli-I too think this motion should not pass. They need time to digest information.

We should say we want information coming from them, not a deadline.

Senator Garrity-I too oppose this so that we do not rush this.

Coordinator Fortune-I was under the impression that the students came to us because they were

concerned about the program. Now that the contract is signed I do not see the purpose of the


Senator Dueser-The purpose is to determine whether or not student rights have been violated in

negotiation process. The student on the committee felt his vote did not count. The Dean stated that the student did not seem to have strong opinions. He seemed to have very strong opinions when he spoke to us. I think this is strange because the committee will come before the senate. Investigation is on-going. I am not aware of why a two week time limit would be the best action.

Senator Helgeson-I feel the committee could present in two weeks and remain active.

Senator Casey-Analogy of buying a family car.

Senator Mullin-I would like the motion reread.

It does not mean that you stop, it merely means you report and give us some direction considering the contract is signed.

Senator Pike-I think we should vote this down, because recommendation is not the proper language-

maybe presentation.

Coordinator Stafford-I agree, we need more time, what we really need to look at, and what needs to be done. I support Senator Pike.

Motion fails

Speaker Rachel D. Noah


Initial RSO-Economics Club, College Democrats

Renewal-MSU Flight Team

Correspondence/Asst. Vice President Student Affairs Malcolm O’Sullivan.

The President has reviewed the resolutions of September 19, October 4 and October 11, 2001 and provides the following responses:

1. Resolution recommends an allocation of $375 to the Pre-Law Society to attend a law school forum in Chicago. The President approves the resolution.
2. R#09.26.01A This resolution recommends an allocation of up to $1,000 to the MSU Flight Teams for travel to a regional competition. The President approves this resolution if the contingencies mentioned (availability of airplanes and status as a Recognized Student Organization) are met.
3. R#10.03.01A The President wished to inform the Student Senate that she has reviewed the resolution expressing the MSSA’s official support for the striking workers.
4. R#10.03.01B The president has reviewed the resolution which requests information from the President or her designee regarding the timeline, process and student involvement in selecting a vendor for the Aviation Management program. The President asks if some of the information requested might be found in her 10/2/01 letter to the aviation management students, which the Student Senate received? If additional information is desired, the President asks that the issue either be placed on the next meet and confer agenda for discussion (with the questions being provided prior to the meeting) or that the Student Senate submit specific questions in writing to Vice President Margaret Healy.
5. R#09.26.01B. This resolution recommends the "forgiveness" of a $10,400 debt owed to the Student Activity Fund by Campus Recreation. The President approves this resolution.
6. R#10.10.01A This resolution recommends the allocation of $135.00 for Amnesty International to attend a regional conference in St. Louis, MO. The President approves this resolution.

Orientation for new senators: Friday 11:00 Conference Room.

Senator Dueser-Is it a problem if senators leave before 6:00?

Speaker Noah-Yes, you need to be excused if you are leaving the meeting.

Senator Casey-Regarding correspondence-what does it say regarding having questions addressed

at Meet & Confer.

Speaker Noah-Meet & Confer is for the Executive branch of Senate. You can give your questions to President White Owl or Dr. Healy or Malcolm.

Malcolm-The intent in the correspondence was more for how do you want the response, a meeting, in writing?

Senator Reports

Off-Campus Senator – Jason Casey

Park and walk past gardens-would like to see how many of you would like to adopt a garden.

Motion #10.17.01 A Senator Casey/Senator Poole

Move to have the Student Association establish a team of senators who volunteer to adopt a flower garden on the MSU campus.

Senator Poole-I would like to do this.

Senator Dueser-Perhaps we could pass around a sign-up so that we do not have to have an

election of the student body.

Senator Austad-Can you find out what piece of land we can have.

Motion tabled

Academic Affairs Committee Motion #10.17.01A

Whereas Minnesota State policy 3.26 part 3 subpart A section 5 "student works" states that some student works shall be considered institutional works,

So be it resolved that the MSSA Senate requests that Minnesota State include wording which protects the intelletual property of the student and protects student creation and ownership of their works.

Senator Muggli-What is this motion?

Senator Radtke-This seems broad, is Minnesota State the proper body to address this to?

Coordinator Gaffer-The proper body would be the Minnesota State Academic Affairs Committee.

Motion ruled out of order

Off-Campus Senator-Mikel Akers

Chair of Student Services Committee-working on projects in Student Services.

I took offense to Vice President Shaffi saying that some of the committees were not as important.

I also think we need to look at the motions and who we address them to. We are spending

a lot of time on language.

Senator Austad-Was Student Services responsible for removing the bike rack?

Senator Muggli-After discussion we did remove the bike rack between Morris and Armstrong.

This was put there to provide a barrier for high pedestrian traffic. It was decided it was a problem.

Senator Pike-Would you like to see your committee full and operating?

Senator Akers-We all need to do what we were elected to do.

Senator Muggli-Should motions be created outside of this meeting and brought in?

Senator Akers-Most motions could be done in committee. Some things come up that need to be done in the meeting.

Coordinator Reports

Intergovernmental Coordinator Rhys Gaffer

Great football game. We won. I have been attending the City Council work sessions. Have a very

full packet of information regarding the airport and aviation. Big things happening in the city.

Redistricting in the city-campus has grown from Ed Twedt’s ward to Ed Considine’s ward.

Mayor Kagermeyer and Mike Laven will come here and give a presentation along with Ed Twedt

Ed Twedt would like to meet with us on landlord issues etc. Minnesota State policies, we need to get

comments in by Friday. Second reading of Res Hall, after that it is pretty much set in stone.

Intellectual Property Policy-MSUSA will have a session on this and how it effects students and

what type of language insertion is necessary. Revenue Funding second reading-will get information and pass that along through Student Services. It is important that we work with MSUSA, we need to

reinvigorate the process with an eye towards how does it effect the rest of the state. We share

information, we can respond to problems that are happening on other campus’s. Our campus

needs to have input, we need them to know that we are an active student organization.

Intellectual Property Policy-dealing with the rights of the university having access to things created by a student. Software, writing, hard work-there are two points-it is fuzzy language. Students might not have the ability to claim the rights to something they create, as it stands the university could, unless we can change the language. Students have to fight for their rights even though they use university property, they pay tuition and fees. They ought to be able to keep what they create. Also looking at ways students could be identified for creating works. If you work for a vendor that the university has hired and you create something they are paying you to do, they have the rights. This could mean a lot when you are in grad school. We need to protect students.

Motion #10.17.01 C Senator Helgeson/Senator Austad

Have Aviation Committee give us a presentation in two weeks to keep Senate informed.

Ruled out of order-Speaker would like to see stronger language.


Senator Rumpf-Camelot is playing. It is a good show. Thursday-Sat and Sun mat Sun.

Senator Garrity-Next week is my 21st birthday. Come share french fries.

Senator Klein-Hockey Games, we need some help. Rhys and Stacy and Joe helped last time. We had a good time.

Senator Horne-Speaking at All-Greek meeting next Wed. at 9:00. Introduce ourselves etc.

Senator Pike-The SAC has passed changes to SAC policy. If you go to the SAC Board you can see

The changes and the current policy. Read before next week when SAC come before you.

Motion #10.17.01 D Senator Dueser/Senator Pike

MSSA Senate requests that the Minnesota State Academic Affairs & Student Affairs Policy Council:

Insert the language "If a student creates work using college or university resources that the student has paid tuition and fees to have access to in his/her academic program, the student shall have full rights to that work" into Minnesota State Policy 3.26, Part 3, Subpart A "Student Works", after the words "or university.

Senator Dueser-Yield time to Coordinator Gaffer to read paragraph from Minnesota State policy.

Senator Dueser-This is a time sensitive issue as Friday they will be deciding on this.

Senator Pike-This is confusing, but it means that since we pay fees and tuition we would be the owner

of the property even though it is created on university property.

Motion passes unanimously

Roll Call

Senators Present

Daniela Rumpf, Byron Pike, Beenish Malhi, Rachael Horne, Andrew Menden, Matt Osmondson, Richard Dueser, Brian Mullin, Jayson Read, Katie Garrity, Parrish Jones, Ryan Austad, Stephanie White Ashley Guetter, Jacob Helgeson, Adam Poole, Mikel Akers, Jason Casey, Monica Klein, Joe Muggli, Stacy Wiech, Ian Radtke, Zach Biesanz, James Tung

Senators Absent

Dan Peskorz, Omni Peterson

Executive Staff Present

President Roger White Owl, Vice President Uzair Shaffi

Adjournment Meeting adjourned at 5:45 P.M.