68th MSSA Senate
October 17, 2001 Minutes
Meeting called to order at 4:04 P.M. by Speaker Rachel D. Noah
Roll Call (present-absent-proxy-excused)
Nicole Palacios 2-0-0, Daniela Rumpf 6-0-0, Byron Pike 6-0-0, Beenish Malhi 2-0-0, Rachael Horne
6-0-0, Andrew Menden 2-0-0, Matt Osmondson 4-2-0, Richard Dueser 2-0-0, Brian Mullin 6-0-0, Jayson Read 6-0-0, Katie Garrity 6-0-0, Parrish Jones 5-1-0, Dan Peskorz 4-2-0, Ryan Austad 2-0-0, Stephanie White 6-0-0, Ashley Guetter 2-0-0, Omni Peterson 2-0-0, Jacob Helgeson 2-2-0-2, Mikel Akers 5-0-1, Jason Casey 5-0-1, Monica Klein 6-0-0, Joe Muggli 6-0-0, Stacy Wiech 2-0-0, Ian Radtke 6-0-0, Zach Biesanz 2-0-0, James Tung 6-0-0, Cassandra Linkenmeyer 2-0-0
Executive Staff Present
President Roger White Owl, Vice President Uzair Shaffi
Presentation-Mary Dowd, Student Rights and Responsibilities
Commended participation of student senate
Statement of Student Responsibilities (see handout)
Judicial Board-Student conduct code-9 affirmative statements put together by students/faculty/staff
Primary expectations of students are integrity and civility. Student Affairs Office reviews complaints and if there is a violation they give students an opportunity for a formal review, sanctions are given, resolutions are formed. Many times complaints do not go to Judicial Board. Complex issues come forward and opinions are based on facts not judgment. Training is provided for students serving on Judicial Board. The board needs individuals that can be fair, set biases aside. Cases can be lengthy. Sanctions are determined. Students are given responsibility. The university community processes community standards. Students always serve on panel, chair is always a student. Very big responsibility, everyone must be treated respectfully, must be willing to mediate and reach agreement.
Senator Pike-Discussed pornography issue, can students that do this be sent to Judicial Board?
Ms. Dowd-Many things are involved before it comes before the board, for example what policy is violated? Security reports must be reviewed so there are things to work with.
Senator Pike-I can?t find anything in writing that states this is a violation.
Ms. Dowd-If this is not necessary for a class or if it bothers other people, it takes away from them by creating a hostile environment. Signs could be put up making students aware that this is not allowed on university computers.
Senator Dueser-Where do students go to appeal a Judicial Board hearing?
Ms. Dowd-Students are notified and given time to prepare for a hearing.
Coordinator Gaffer-Regarding State Law-isn?t child pornography illegal?
Ms. Dowd-Child porn is clearly illegal; our server could be shut down if this was abused. Porn is different. There are many factors in determining this.
Ms. Dowd-Office is currently going into classrooms speaking on academic honesty and integrity and
in everyday life. If students are plagiarizing-academics become not meaningful.
When students are accused or if they are a victim they might want senators to assist them. Guide
will be in office to allow senators to be an advocate.
Approval of Agenda
Addition of Academic Affairs Committee, Senators Muggli and Klein
Approval of Minutes 9/19/01
Senator Muggli/Senator Pike Homecoming Activities (Sign ups passed around for involvement)
Opportunities for involvement of senate-Student Organization Fair, Food Drive, Wacky Olympics, Blood Mobile, Lip Sync Contest, Twister Contest, Jalapeno eating contest, Parade
President Roger White Owl
Met with Dr. Healy discussed items such as Strike, Meet & Confer. Coordinators met Monday,
discussed Meet & Confer agenda. MSUSA delegation-MSUSA is a different organization
this year. Visiting dignitary commented on how well everyone got along. Meet & Confer on
Monday, Interim President was pleased to see how many students attended. They are aware of how well we will involved. MN Senate members will be touring on Oct. 15. Last night staff and senators
attended presentation of He Said-She Said. What was shocking was the attitude of students on campus concerning consumption of alcohol and responsibility of actions,
Many people felt things could be blamed on alcohol. We are responsible. Several MSSA senators got up and introduced themselves. Very proud of them. There are serious issues on campus that can be addressed. Come into the office, you can make a difference.
Senator Austad-What are the serious issues?
President White Owl-Lackadaisical attitude of alcohol on campus, many students have that attitude.
Students need to be made aware and educated of policies. We were not approached to Co-Sponsor
this event and we should have been part of this.
Senator Tung-Why do we not have a sign in the Union?
President White Owl-I direct you to the Union Board and Coordinator Gaffer.
Vice President Uzair Shaffi
Met with Deans, SET, Library, Social & Behavioral. Technology seems to be on everyones mind. Met with Dr. Healy. Attended Meet & Confer Monday with all the Coordinators. Reports were given. Spoke to Vice President Early regarding Dean Searches, Library, Allied Health, Business, and Education. MSUSA was in Moorhead, our delegation consisted of 8 people. Several motions were passed. Newcomers need to fill out Committee applications and be appointed by President. It was great to see committees having quorum. It is also great to see senators out there promoting the office.
Senator Pike-What are the concerns regarding technology?
Vice President Shaffi-Everyone wants more laptops. College of SET is looking to moving to something similar to the College of Business. Library is look at restructuring of technology.
I am so proud of you; every single senator is here today. Alumni in gallery-Matt Harmon
Recognized Student Organizations: Initial Recognitions-Women?s LaCrosse Club
Renewal Recognitions-Alpha Chi Omega, American Chemical Society, Amnesty International,
Campus Bible Fellowship, Campus Crusade for Christ, Chi Alpha Ministry, College Republicans, Fellowship of Christian Athletes, Feminist Under Construction, Finance Club, German Club, IEEE, Interior Design Student Association, Jewish Student Association, Kappa Delta Pi, Law Enforcement Club, Lutheran Campus Ministry-ELCA, MSU Aviation Club, MSU Student Ambassadors, MSU
Aikido Club, MSU Habitat for Humanity, Mass Communication Club, Minnesota State University Mankato Panhellenic Association, National Student Speech Language Hearing Association, NEPALI
Students Community, Phi Kappa Psi Fraternity, Phi Sigma Alpha, Psychology Club, Role Playing Special Interests Group, Sigma Nu Fraternity, Sigma Sigma Sigma, Student Anthropology Association, Student Art League, Student Nursing Association, Tau Kappa Epsilon TKE, Time and Transition Conference, United Campus Ministry, WELS Lutheran Campus Ministry
Orientation for members that did not attend orientation and newly elected members. Wed. Oct
3, 11:00 AM Conference room. Coordinators invited to attend.
Peace Walk-Sept. 30. Meet at Embers. Community outreach effort.
Speaker Rulings-All presentations limited to 15 minutes. All coordinator and senator reports will be limited to 10 minutes.
Senator Muggli-Can rules be suspended for important issues?
SAC, Byron Pike, Chair
Vice President Mark Johnson will be coming to senate regarding Technology Fee that was given to him last year by our increase in tech fee. Have questions ready on how additional increase was
spent. Internet access-money was given last two years; we still have the same amount of
Network-that gets bogged down. Ask students what they think. Turnover in ACC-software
is currently not caught up. Do we not have to buy all the new machines? Technology is wanted for all
classrooms. This should be put into tuition not fees. Be attentive and polite.
Senator Mullin-Referring to document of Senator Pike, this came to SAC through the Student Tech Roundtable, it was a list of priorities. The University has hired a man to look at technology on campus and see where are greatest needs are. Wireless devices were contingent upon a grant from state.
Chair Pike-Read SAC policy, changes may be coming up. You will nee to know how to vote.
Senator Dueser-How do we draw the line on how things are funded, out of fees or tuition?
Chair Pike-Funds were set up to pool money to bring technology to the students, currently
the biggest benefit is for the college of Business; if everyone had laptops then it would benefit everyone.
Senator Dueser-Tuition should be used for permanent things to benefit university, fees are, for
Academic Affairs, Katie Garrity, Chair
Speaking of veto from President White Owl-Committee has decided to appoint an adhoc committee and report back next week.
Senator Muggli-Will there be informal discussion, who do we talk to?
Chair Garrity-Address concerns to her, or do your own investigation.
Senator Klein-What does the vote of no confidence mean?
President White Owl-In response to committee action, I feel they should investigate and senators
should make their own judgment.
Chair Garrity-President felt committee did not look at all sides of the issue. We would like to have another time to defend.
Senator Mullin-Who will be on that committee?
Chair Garrity-Information will be available later today.
Senator Dueser-What you are going to do is set up a meeting to meet with the administration to see if they will answer questions. Avaition students came to senate, aviation met with administration-Will you continue to recommend the overturn?
Chair Garrity-Some senators are still undecided. We need time to make informed decisions.
Senator Tung-What type of action will you take?
Chair Garrity-We have two weeks to override. We need to get as much information as possible on why we made the decision on the motion.
President White Owl-Purpose was not to stand against it, but to stand against the language.
Senator Dueser-Can you yield to President White Owl?
President White Owl-The veto is with the language of the vote of no confidence, what is this vote of
no confidence? How was it determined? These are the things that the senators should examine and research. This is not the issue of the support for aviation students but the veto is in regard to the process of the vote of no confidence and its implications.
College of Business Senator, Byron Pike
Many senators have been trying to get involved with students on campus. Talk to students on
campus and promote by signing up for events like Homecoming.
Have made appoints with every club in the College of Business. We could do a Meet your Senator
Day in the Union. Senator profiles could be posted. Talk to the Reporter-senator speak up section.
Senator Muggli-Can T-shirts be a different color?
Senator Casey-We could put profiles on the Web page.
Off Campus Senator Monica Klein
Senators got together and went to football game. He Said She Said was excellent. SAC
Met this morning. Mike Akers was appointed chair of Student Services. Homecoming
Football follies. Have talked with Sue Reinders and Don Amiot, athletic directors have indicated that we can help out at sporting events. They are willing to make it a senator night. Think about it.
Senator Muggli-How many students were at the football game?
Senator Klein-Not sure exactly.
Off Campus Senator Joe Muggli
Apologize to speaker for not following procedure. Way cool that everyone is here. Attended Union board meeting. The discussion came about regarding paying the chair and vice chair a stipend. Say no. dangerous issues could come forward. Got new handles on the doors for the CSU. Mark Johnson coming next week. Was nice to attend He Said She Said. Leg Affairs Meeting-5 pm not binding. Voice my disapproval of SLD&SL, because we can not win prizes and can not be official.
Senator Biesanz- In the past Union Board chair and vice chair were paid positions.
Senator Muggli- They put an end to that a few years ago.
Senator Garrity- Why can we not be official for homecoming events?
Senator Muggli- They feel it is a conflict of interest, because if there are issues. Those cases come to us, not contestable according to me.
Senator Garrity-Can we change that?
Senator Poole- If we had paid positions on Union Board, who would pay for them?
Senator Muggli- SAF , I yield to anyone who can answer it.
Senator Helgeson- How do you feel about other presidents being paid?
Senator Muggli- I don?t have enough information
Senator Weich- What is our exact grievance with Union Board chair and vice chair not being paid?
Senator Muggli- They were already elected as non paid positions. This is a dangerous precedent to start.
Motion #09.19.01 Campus Recreation Loan Senator Pike/Senator Muggli
Move to forgive the debt of $10,400 owed to SAF by Campus Recreation.
Senator Pike-3 yrs ago Campus Recreation took a loan to buy treadmills. Last year they charged for use of a certain area, and now this year all is free. Greater benefit to students. We need to take care of this bookkeeping error because we have always bought most of the stuff in there. We are going to have plaques made acknowledging MSSA on the machines.
Senator Muggli- This should be forgiven because there is no chance of repayment. Is it going to be free next year? For our best interest and working with the group we should forgive the loan.
Senator Deuser ?Does SAC own the machines?
Senator Radtke-This is a good decision. They came before us last year also.
Coordinator Stafford- Can we delay the loan for a year?
Speaker Noah ? This is to clear the books.
Senator Poole- Can the motion be amended to make this a change for good?
Coordinator Gaffer- Has there been discussion to reduce the amount of money given to this organization?
Senator Pike- No
Vice President Shaffi- Call the question
Motion passed unanimously
Technology Coordinator, Tim Huebsch
Good afternoon, I am Tim Huebsch, MSSA Tech Coordinator. The tech fee was developed by the Student Tech Roundtable, Senator Pike was saying calendar is connected to Microsoft, that couldn?t happen so it is delayed, Classroom technology, only College of Business will be paying for it. The total cost per classroom for technology is less that $5000.
RFPs went out to the ISPs in the Mankato area. None have come in that satisfy the large area where students live.
Invited senators (and everyone) to the roundtable meeting.
Senator Casey ? When does the roundtable meet? ? Not setup yet.
Senator Pike? Understood the classroom technology was to be in all of the classrooms.
Senator Muggli ? Outlook won?t be coming online for students? ? Looking into ways of doing licensing. Faculty and staff will be doing it in Jan. / Feb. The license for just students would be $70,000.
Senator Muggli? I should ask CIO Johnson these questions.
Speaker Noah?You can always suspend the rules.
Senator Muggli ? We will meet on t-shirts and homecoming after the meeting.
Senator Garrity? Let?s eat together after the meeting.
Senator Pike ? We need four more people for football follies
Nicole Palacios, Daniela Rumpf, Byron Pike, Beenich Malhi, Rachael Horne, Matt Osmondson, Richard Dueser, Brian Mullin, Jayson Read, Katie Garrity, Dan Peskorz, Ryan Austad, Stephanie White, Ashley Guetter, Omni Peterson, Adam Poole, Mikel Akers, Jason Casey, Monica Klein, Moe Muggli, Stacy Wiech, Ian Radtke, James Tung, Cassandra Linkenmeyer
Andrew Menden, Parrish Jones, Jacob Helgeson, Zach Biesanz
Executive Staff Present
President White Owl
Executive Staff Absent
Vice President Shaffi
Adjournment Meeting adjourned at 6:12