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Minnesota State University, Mankato
Minnesota State University, Mankato


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70th MS/SA Senate

September 25, 2002

Meeting called to order by Speaker Zach Biesanz

Roll Call (present-absent-proxy-excused)

Senators Present

Chris Forman 6-0-0, Mary Scheider 1-0-0, Ryan Haugen 6-0-0, Katie Hjulberg 1-0-0, Andrew Menden 5-0-1, Jessica Giordani-proxy Sarah Wagner 5-0-1, Rajendra K. Penugonda 6-0-0, Jessica Boyd 6-0-0, Katie Garrity 6-0-0, Alex Boyce 6-0-0, C. Rhys Gaffer 5-0-1, Joseph Perkins 6-0-0, Anand Agarwal 5-1-0, Gordana Copic 6-0-0, Irfan Bangash 6-0-0, Taimoor Hussain Bangash 6-0-0, Celeste Hollerud 5-0-1, Kashif H. Khan 4-2-0, Rebecca Pollack 1-0-0, Ian Radtke 6-0-0, Jayson Read 1-0-0, Hailey Schmitz 5-1-0, Megan Brandt 1-0-0,

Senators Absent

Minhaal M. Nathani 4-2-0, Mohammed Suhail 4-1-1

Executive Staff Present

President Joe Muggli, Vice President Ali Raza

Approval of Agenda

Amend to add Student Affairs Committee-Ian Radtke Chair, amend to add

Gordana Copic to Senator Reports

Presentation-Student Health Services-Christine Connolly, Director

Mandatory Insurance-why it is so important. We don’t have mandatory insurance, concern

comes from social responsibility. As a community we are horrified for elderly, children, single moms that don’t have insurance, yet we don’t think anything of college students not having insurance. Insurance helps reduce high cost of malpractice insurance. Health Services had to come up with an additional $11,000 for insurance this past year. Hospitals, clinics, can be sued by companies when someone does not have insurance. University pays over $1,000 a month for employees to be insured. Students can get insurance for as little as $50.00 per month. There is also educational responsibility around health care. We need to look at this as a society. It costs more as a society when people are not insured. St. Cloud initiated co-pay; they saw far fewer students, because they could not pay. Student retention is another issue for students that may have substance abuse, depression and can’t afford medication-accidents-students can’t pay and are forced to drop out of school. Would like access for everybody. Some people choose not to have health care-that is scary. There is an inequity at this school-International students do have to have insurance for their visas. We now have voluntary insurance. We now have usual and customary 80/20 % coverage. Mandatory insurance would cover at 85%. Medication would be covered. Currently depression medication is $150.00. Voluntary insurance currently only covers $150

per year. Benefits are so much better under mandatory plan. Example-x-rays,

couldn’t do if not mandatory. Health Services can negotiate for all students, not

for merely 20 students on voluntary plan. Under mandatory insurance everyone would be covered. Appreciate the time given, seriously think about this issue. Students do not pick their school based on health insurance.

Senator Gaffer- Not every student may need insurance, but what mechanism is there for a

student on financial aid?

Director Connolly-Financial aid would be adjusted accordingly-more aid, loans.

Senator Radtke-Mal practice insurance went up-would that go down if mandatory insurance

were in play?

Director Connolly-Don’t know that for sure, but they would not go up at the rates that they currently are. We are now accredited, how many students insured etc. can figure into that.

Senator Read-Would this cover the entire year?

Director Connolly-It would cover from August to August. Also gap for students that graduate and do not immediately get insurance from a job or don’t have secure income.

Vice President Raza-International students pay $690-would Internationals also pay less $625?

Director Connolly. Visas require that certain coverage is in effect- for example for x-rays or for repatriation. We can look at that but you need different benefits. This is lower than most schools.

Senator Haugen-Would this cover preexisting conditions?

Director Connolly-Preexisting conditions-yes and no. Sometimes it is 6 months or a year. once benefits kick in then it would cover.

Senator Haugen-The cost of the insurance would not change?

Director Connolly-They have to follow the state law which would not allow them to change that.

Senator Agarwal-How accurate was the poll? How many students do not have insurance?

Director Connolly-Polled a wide variety of students-night students, residence hall, off-campus-only less than 10 percent here did not have insurance.

Senator Agarwal-Can you find a cheaper plan?

Director Connolly-I don’t think you will find a cheaper plan. We are in the Minnesota State system. This is bid every three years. Three years ago there was not another company that could beat this price.

Senator Forman-Are there a certain number of students needed to get this plan?

Director Connolly-No not the numbers-but a cross section of well people and sick people. They could negotiate on the number of claims. This university has a good relationship with this carrier. You want a company that has integrity. This needs to be attached to an administrative fee-you would have an advocate on campus to help you with claims. This would be built in to the costs.

Senator Gaffer-Aware of national study of retention rate-it is dismal. Do you have a number

for our campus?

Director Connolly-We don’t have that information. We see people that run out of money and are no longer part of our clinic.

Senator Gaffer-What is the national rate?

Director Connolly-Do not have that figure, but could get it for you.

Vice President Raza-It is a three year process-from what I understand, International students

Insurance has been going up every year.

Director Connolly-Health care costs have gone up between $40-60 per year, there is a cap

over three years. They can not go over this.

Approval of Minutes 9/18/02 Approved

Officer Reports

President Joseph Muggli

MSUSA-impressed with times of meetings, and we have strong board members.

Hope to tighten up reigns with MSUSA.

Open Forum with President-have heard many positive comments on how wonderful the forum was, and we should hold one at least once a semester. Students would like to see this happen more often. Only glitch-one group tried to personally attack the Reporter and MSSA.

Appointments: SOAFC-Syed Umaid Ahmed, ECDC-Mary Scheider, Syed Umaid Ahmed

Bookstore Advisory Committee-Mohmmad Suhail. Judicial Board-Natalie Noll-Ginter, Myly McBride, Nicholas J. Hadfield, Ian Radtke, C. Rhys Gaffer, Jason Leslie Casey, Tony Angelucci, Ryan Christopher Austad, William Roll, Chanel Spearmon, Rebecca Valley, Joshua J. War, April Marie West, Sarah Roda, Kara Popp. Legislative Affairs-Chris Forman

Still looking for students to serve on the Search Committee for Director International Programs Office, Equal Opportunity & Title IX Officer.

Meet and Confer for Friday has been postponed to Tuesday, October 8 at 2:00 PM

LTR Roundtable still needs one member. Meets Thursday at 1:30 PM.

Student rep needed on Planning Sub-meet and Confer. This deals with distance education, building planning, enrollment management, retention and recruitment of students and faculty of color. Two meetings this semester 10/14 and 11/ 11 12:30-1:30.

Governors debate at SCTC-7:00 PM-Thursday.

Senator Boyd-Will there be a transcript of the questions posed at the Open Forum?

President Muggli-We should be able to get that information from the President’s office.

Senator Gaffer-Do we have other university committees posted on the web-site?

President Muggli-Good idea.

Vice President Ali Raza

Thanks for having the veggie burger at the Open Forum. People still needed for SAC,

Communication Board, Union Board, Bookstore Advisory. Turn in schedules.

Yesterday attended SAAC-many good things said, they are working on marketing,

early registration, Homecoming.

Senator Boyd-You are saying there is one position available for a senator on SAC?

Senator Copic-Communication Board-How many do we need?

Vice President Raza-We need one senator. Only students vote.

Senator Bangash-What about the people that have applied and not been appointed?

Vice President Raza-We have gone over the applications, and chosen the people that

have the best schedules, etc.

Senator Agarwal-About senators being accepted? If not notified are they denied?

Vice President Raza-Senators may not be accepted for various reasons.

Speaker Zach Biesanz

Senators have right for follow-up questions, you must be recognized.

Recognized Student Organizations

Alpha Phi Sigma, German Club, International Student Association, Marketing Club, Campus Crusade for Christ, Delta Sigma Pi, Indonesian Association Mankato (I-AM), Maranathia Christian Fellowship, Minnesota State University-Mankato Facilities Management Student Association, Phi Kappa Psi,

Senators with a 6:00 Class, meet with me. Times available on the door.

Chartwells better for vegetarians than two years ago. In the ’00-’01 academic year, I made it a point to get a hold of the chef everyday, when became vegan that was even more of a problem. Chartwells have increased vegetarian and vegan items. Activism pays.

Committee Reports

Student Affairs Committee, Ian Radtke, Chair

Many items have come before committee. Change in Student Technology initiative. Vote

tonight is to decide if we want to spend time on this. 2/3 vote next week needed to pass.

Motion to amend the Bylaws initiated by the Student Affairs Committee. (see written initiative)

President Muggli-an initiative was brought forward two years ago. It did not conform to our


Vote to approve initiative Passes

Senator Reports

Science Engineering & Technology Senator-Katie Garrity

Introduction - Senior, worked for Moon Dogs this summer, want to work in baseball, single.

Chair of Academic Affairs Committee. Working on grade appeals, have been working with Dr. Hersrud on a draft. Also formed a subcommittee on a 12.0 scale. This is a grade point scale that takes into point if you were a high B or low, etc.. Discussed early registration for

certain student groups. Proposal has been withdrawn at this time for athletics, Athletic Director is working on this. Also attended SAAC-they are doing good promotions. Will also be working as an intern for basketball games. Encourage all students to get involved in committees.

SAC meeting time: Mondays @ noon in Senate Conference room.

Open Forum went well, commend our office, the Reporter, the President.

Will be going to Washington D.C. Nov 13-17. Agenda will be MSUSA’s agenda

on financial aid, International student tracking.

President Muggli-What are five characteristics that you would like to see in a man?

Senator Garrity-Share similar values, fun and exciting, intelligent, make me laugh,

plays baseball wouldn’t hurt, great.

Senator Penugonda-Will you be able to bring up issues that affect our school in Washington?

Senator Garrity-Will be meeting with the staff of legislators, committees that work

with state agencies, financial aid. We will say that this is MSUSA’s position, but could

also add MSU concerns.

Social & Behavioral Science Senator-C. Rhys Gaffer

Regarding my objections to RSO’s last week, a better alternative would have been to ask the Speaker for a recess to get the information about those RSO’s without their mission statements on their applications for renewal. And a brief recess for me to understand what that word advisory meant. It’s okay how things turned out last week, and I’m glad to be able to share this lesson with all of you. Have worked with the Minnesota State Accident & Health care policy since last spring semester-this is the same group Chris Connolly mentioned earlier during her presentation. I have additional contact with the people on this committee, and information about the work of this committee. I will make it available in the MSSA Information Corner by Thursday afternoon. Feel this is a good initiative. Would like to work with Student Services to try a pilot on this campus. Attended MSUSA this weekend-don’t always like the process used on the issues. Before we point fingers we need to be engaged from our level on issues. We need to look at issues and be informed.

College of Education Senator-Andrew Menden

I am on the Vice President for College of Education search. Have been trying to meet with Dean of College regarding some issues department has. Attended Fall Elegance this past weekend for people of disabilities.

Off-Campus Senator-Irfan Bangash

Last weekend attended my first MSUSA conference at Winona. It was a very good experience. I would highly recommend to the new senators to attend one of these conferences. It is a very good way to learn and to improve your leadership qualities. What I observed in that conference is that MSSA, Mankato is doing an excellent job. We are way ahead of the other associations. None of the other schools had appointed any of their coordinators and neither had they chosen anyone to represent them in Washington D.C. While the appointments of all of our coordinators are done, except for one coordinator and we have already nominated our representative for D.C.’s conference.

One of the delegates from Winona State said that they are starting a series of publishing the profile of each of their student leaders every week in their school’s newspaper. I think it’s a very good idea and the MSU Reporter should also start such a program of having a column for each of MSU student leaders in their weekly publication. This will help in the publicity of our Association and other MSU students will start taking interest in MSSA.

We had a very successful open forum yesterday outside CSU. People came up with different questions and ideas which can prove to be very useful in carrying out future master plans. I would suggest that we should have these forums every month.

Apart from being a senator, I am also the president of International Student Association. International students are really concerned about the new visa & INS policies and the tracking of International students. They have made it really difficult for the International student to get an F-1 Visa. I think we need to do something about it.

Last week, one of the senators said in his report that ISA should be involved in MSSA decisions. I am positive with his comments. ISA has been treated as an ordinary RSO but we are a very important association and we should be involved in different school decisions.

Moreover, ISA has always been working for the promotion of cultural diversity. We have started planning for organizing South Asian Night which is going to be held on October 19th , 2002. Tickets for this night will be available by next week.

This year we have Ambassador Damodar Prasad Gautam with us. He will teach South Asian politics classes.

Senator Penugonda-What are the policies affecting International students?

Senator Bangash-Different steps students are forced to do to get Visa.

Senator Haugen-Many students have entered by student visas and have gotten lost in the country, what would you recommend to not have that happen?

Senator Bangash-There should be policies that are not so strict but keep track of people.

Vice President Raza-The policy now allows people in the country-from the start the

INS should know where people are at, they should have this documented. INS should not change policies, they should improve the current structure. Because of the changes now-many students were not allowed to come back to school because the process is so slow.

Senator Haugen-What other solutions are there to offer the International students so

that they do not get hassled, yet we have security?

Senator Bangash-We should think about this to help students.

Senator Copic-One of the things that INS did was ask for all students to send their new address, even a different dorm room.

Gage A Senator-Gordana Copic

Sophomore-Human Resource Management. Involved with European Association. Want to help with languages or students that want to study abroad. In concert choir. Community

Advisor-students do know about senate. Complex director thinks students are more

involved this year. Issues that came up: Parking-for bikes, condition of the building. Would like shelters for bikes. Gage is going to get renovated. Process will begin in May.

Senator Boyd-Do you mean bicycles or motorcycles?

Senator Copic-Motorcycles.

Senator Penugonda-RHA meets every Monday at 4:00 PM, this issue could go to them.


Speaker-Meet with me regarding parliamentary procedures.

Senator Boyd-New movie night-foreign movie in Indio, every Friday.

Senator Hollerud-Party Friday night.

Senator Bangash-Cricket contest this weekend.

Senator Giordani-Mural contest extended deadline. Submit drawings.

Vice President Raza-Friday at 6:30 or 5:00 on Sunday would be the best time to go the the Cricket tournament.

Roll Call

Senator Present

Chris Forman, Mary Scheider, Ryan Haugen, Katie Hjulberg, Andrew Menden, Jessica Giordani, Rajendra Penugonda, Jessica Boyd, Katie Garrity, Alex Boyce, Rhys Gaffer, Joseph Perkins, Anand Agarwal, gordana Copic, Irfan Bangash, Taimoor Bangash, Celeste Hollerud, Kashif Khan, Rebecca Pollack, Ian Radtke, Jayson Read, Hailey Schmitz, Megan Brandt

Sentors Absent

Minhaal Nathani, Mohammad suhail

Executive Staff Present

President Muggli, Vice President Raza

Adjournment 5:40 P.M.